Re: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. Solder or crimp?)

[Mark Abramowitz via EV]

 I was looking for a miter saw at the time. Ended up with a DeWalt.


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 From: Bill Dube via EV  To: Electric Vehicle Discussion 
List  Subject: Re: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. 
Solder or crimp?) Date: 4/27/16, 2:13 PM

 
HF has mostly decent quality tools. Not Snap-On super-duper top-end  
quality, but decent utilitarian tools at low prices. 
 
When you are shopping at HF, you have to use common sense, however.  
The label may say "3/4 HP" but if the power cord is thin like a  
noodle and the price is only $15, it probably is only 100 watts and  
will likely not do the job like a brand name tool. (Chinese horses  
are often smaller, I've been told. ;-)  ) I've replaced a few power  
switches over the years as they are typically not well sealed. 
 
I use the 30 in shear/bender/roller constantly. 
http://www.harborfreight.com/30-inch-shear-press-brake-and-slip-roll-5907.html 
 
I bought a band saw from HF many years ago and I can't imagine life without it: 
http://www.harborfreight.com/14-in-4-speed-woodworking-band-saw-60564.html 
I put a new motor with a VFD in it almost as soon as I got it,  
however. (I never buy replacement blades from HF.) 
 
We actually have two of their $15  4 1/2 inch grinders. One for the  
race trailer and one for the shop. 
http://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/grinders-buffers/4-12-in-43-amp-angle-grinder-69645.html
 
 
Impact wrench (we got it on sale for $79, minus 20% of course) 
http://www.harborfreight.com/air-tools/impact-wrenches/12-in-professional-air-impact-wrench-68424.html
 
(This impact wrench works marvelously, by the way.) 
 
We have bought 100's of their tools over the years. Only rarely have  
I been disappointed. 
 
Bill D. 
 
At 11:15 AM 4/27/2016, Mark Abramowitz wrote: 
 
>Interesting. 
> 
>I was going to buy some stuff from them 
>awhile back, but decided against it after going online and reading  
>reviews. Lots of folks thought they were junk, so it's good to see a  
>contrary opinion. 
> 
> 
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>>From: Bill Dube via EV <<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org>ev@lists.evdl.org> 
>>To: Cor van de Water  
>><<mailto:cwa...@proxim.com>cwa...@proxim.com>,Electric Vehicle  
>>Discussion List <<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org>ev@lists.evdl.org> 
>>Subject: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. Solder or crimp?) 
>>Date: 4/27/16, 8:49 AM 
>> 
>> 
>>Harbor freight _always_ has a 20% off one item coupon, somewhere. 
>>Occasionally, a 25% off coupon is sent in mailings, advertizements, etc. 
>>(AARP magazine often has a 25% off coupon.) 
>>You can always get a "free LED flashlight" coupon as well. Be sure to 
>>find one of those. 
>> 
>>They have nice tools, but you must be somewhat selective in what you buy 
>>from Harbor Freight. 
>>Buy the tool (like a band saw) from HF, but buy the replacement 
>>metal-cutting blades, end-mills, and the like, elsewhere. Blades, etc. 
>>for wood and plastic from HF are OK and work great. Drills are OK. 
>>They sell _awesome_ hydraulic tools at a bargain price. Their hand 
>>tools, pneumatic tools, and power tools, have worked well for us for 
>>many years and saved us a ton of money. If you look at photos of our 
>>shop, almost all the tools are HF brand. 
>> 
>>We buy Ryobi cordless tools because they all use the same style battery. 
>>Have for many years, even though they have changed chemistry, the new 
>>batteries fit the old tools. (Even though they cost substantially less, 
>>almost every HF cordless tool uses a different style battery and 
>>charger, so we buy Ryobi.) 
>> 
>>Bill D. 
>> 
>>On 4/26/2016 3:55 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: 
>> > Bill, 
>> > Thanks - I am planning to convert my Lead-Acid pack to Li later this 
>> > year 
>> > as it has been deteriorating after 16,500 miles and 4 years of almost 
>> > daily commute, so I probably will need to make new cables for that 
>> > conversion. 
>> > I printed your coupon and noticed that it is valid till end this week, 
>> > then I came home and found the weekly junk mail stash in the mailbox - 
>> > but the back page caught my eye: Harbor Freight ads and a 20% off 
>> > coupon, 
>> > only the paper coupon is valid till July! 
>> > Probably that the digital coupon will get renewed every week or so, but 
>> > it was a nice coincidence to get both at the same day! 
>> > 
>> > Cor van de Water 
>> > Chief Scientist 
>> > Proxim Wireless 
>> > 
>> > offic

Re: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. Solder or crimp?)

[Mark Abramowitz via EV]

 Yep, I'm usually sorry when I buy cheap tools. I won't always buy top of the 
line because they get limited use, but junk always ends up costing more time 
and money, not to mention lots of frustration.
Bill's experience with HF really changes my view on going there. 


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Discussion List  Subject: Re: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools 
(was: J1772. Solder or crimp?) Date: 4/27/16, 8:03 PM

 
On 27 Apr 2016 at 10:15, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: 
 
> Lots of folks thought they were junk  ... 
 
To some extent I defer to Bill Dube' on this, as he has obviously bought a  
LOT of HF tools, and I have not.   However, in general I follow my father's  
advice and example, and buy the best tools I can afford.   
 
Many times that means buying a used tool.  A used tool may cost more,  
sometimes a lot more, than a similar one at HF or wherever.  But I figure I  
am getting a tool that will last me the rest of my life. 
 
I buy used not just for price, but because today a lot of midrange brand  
name tools are barely, if at all, better than the HF versions.  I wouldn't  
be surprised if some of them come from the same Chinese factories.   
 
I think the problem is that the tool companies' stockholders demand big  
profits, the big box stores demand low-ish cost and high margin, and  
customers just what what's cheap. 
 
So it goes. 
 
When I'm absolutely sure I'll use the tool for only one or two jobs, I might  
buy a cheap one, either brand name or HF.  However, I did that with a spring  
compressor when I changed the struts in a VW Golf in the mid-1990s, and boy  
did I ever regret that purchase.  Bloody thing cross-threaded.  I had to  
rent a decent spring compressor to get the crap one off and finish the job.   
That made me a lot more cautious. 
 
I've read posts here from folks who recommend the HF hydraulic crimpers.  I  
recall someone saying years ago that the dies are mismarked and you have to  
choose by approximate fit.  I don't know whether that's still true.   
 
For a while I did consider buying one anyway, but honestly I don't need one  
since so far my hammer crimper (E-Z-Red, I think is the brand) does just  
fine for what I need. 
 
David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA 
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Re: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. Solder or crimp?)

[Thomas Brannan via EV]

Care to share the model number of the "good" TIG welder??
Tom

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Jan Steinman via EV 
wrote:

> > From: Alan Brinkman via EV 
> > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List 
> >
> > I purchased a Harbor Freight flux core wire welder several years back...
> I now have a larger welder mig/tig? with plasma cutting ability that I have
> not set up yet because the Harbor Freight starter welder won't die.
>
> HF has both crap and some quite nice stuff. You have to know what you’re
> shopping for.
>
> Their welding stuff seems to be good, much of it from Italy, rather than
> China.
>
> I have their inverter TIG welder that is amazing; my only gripe was lack
> of a foot pedal, so I wired in one! Unlike so many things these days, they
> actually supplied a schematic, and I could plainly see that the “volume
> control” was a common 5k pot, which is just what the Lincoln-style foot
> pedals use.
>
> With TIG, you want to start very hot, then back off to your normal welding
> current. I can’t for the life of me figure out how they expected you to do
> that with a panel-mounted pot while both your hands were busy…
>
> Jan
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Re: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. Solder or crimp?)

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On 27 Apr 2016 at 10:15, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:

> Lots of folks thought they were junk  ...

To some extent I defer to Bill Dube' on this, as he has obviously bought a 
LOT of HF tools, and I have not.   However, in general I follow my father's 
advice and example, and buy the best tools I can afford.  

Many times that means buying a used tool.  A used tool may cost more, 
sometimes a lot more, than a similar one at HF or wherever.  But I figure I 
am getting a tool that will last me the rest of my life.

I buy used not just for price, but because today a lot of midrange brand 
name tools are barely, if at all, better than the HF versions.  I wouldn't 
be surprised if some of them come from the same Chinese factories.  

I think the problem is that the tool companies' stockholders demand big 
profits, the big box stores demand low-ish cost and high margin, and 
customers just what what's cheap.

So it goes.

When I'm absolutely sure I'll use the tool for only one or two jobs, I might 
buy a cheap one, either brand name or HF.  However, I did that with a spring 
compressor when I changed the struts in a VW Golf in the mid-1990s, and boy 
did I ever regret that purchase.  Bloody thing cross-threaded.  I had to 
rent a decent spring compressor to get the crap one off and finish the job.  
That made me a lot more cautious.

I've read posts here from folks who recommend the HF hydraulic crimpers.  I 
recall someone saying years ago that the dies are mismarked and you have to 
choose by approximate fit.  I don't know whether that's still true.  

For a while I did consider buying one anyway, but honestly I don't need one 
since so far my hammer crimper (E-Z-Red, I think is the brand) does just 
fine for what I need.

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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Re: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. Solder or crimp?)

[Jan Steinman via EV]

> From: Alan Brinkman via EV 
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List 
> 
> I purchased a Harbor Freight flux core wire welder several years back... I 
> now have a larger welder mig/tig? with plasma cutting ability that I have not 
> set up yet because the Harbor Freight starter welder won't die.

HF has both crap and some quite nice stuff. You have to know what you’re 
shopping for.

Their welding stuff seems to be good, much of it from Italy, rather than China.

I have their inverter TIG welder that is amazing; my only gripe was lack of a 
foot pedal, so I wired in one! Unlike so many things these days, they actually 
supplied a schematic, and I could plainly see that the “volume control” was a 
common 5k pot, which is just what the Lincoln-style foot pedals use.

With TIG, you want to start very hot, then back off to your normal welding 
current. I can’t for the life of me figure out how they expected you to do that 
with a panel-mounted pot while both your hands were busy…

Jan

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Re: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. Solder or crimp?)

[Bobby Keeland via EV]

I bought my Central Hydraulics brand compression crimper from HF so that I
could get good crimps on 0 gauge wiring. Works great so far. This was for
solar panels. From what I've heard you should stay from HF solar panel
systems.
On Apr 27, 2016 4:13 PM, "Bill Dube via EV"  wrote:

> HF has mostly decent quality tools. Not Snap-On super-duper top-end
> quality, but decent utilitarian tools at low prices.
>
> When you are shopping at HF, you have to use common sense, however. The
> label may say "3/4 HP" but if the power cord is thin like a noodle and the
> price is only $15, it probably is only 100 watts and will likely not do the
> job like a brand name tool. (Chinese horses are often smaller, I've been
> told. ;-)  ) I've replaced a few power switches over the years as they are
> typically not well sealed.
>
> I use the 30 in shear/bender/roller constantly.
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/30-inch-shear-press-brake-and-slip-roll-5907.html
>
> I bought a band saw from HF many years ago and I can't imagine life
> without it:
> http://www.harborfreight.com/14-in-4-speed-woodworking-band-saw-60564.html
> I put a new motor with a VFD in it almost as soon as I got it, however. (I
> never buy replacement blades from HF.)
>
> We actually have two of their $15  4 1/2 inch grinders. One for the race
> trailer and one for the shop.
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/grinders-buffers/4-12-in-43-amp-angle-grinder-69645.html
>
> Impact wrench (we got it on sale for $79, minus 20% of course)
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/air-tools/impact-wrenches/12-in-professional-air-impact-wrench-68424.html
> (This impact wrench works marvelously, by the way.)
>
> We have bought 100's of their tools over the years. Only rarely have I
> been disappointed.
>
> Bill D.
>
> At 11:15 AM 4/27/2016, Mark Abramowitz wrote:
>
> Interesting.
>>
>> I was going to buy some stuff from them
>> awhile back, but decided against it after going online and reading
>> reviews. Lots of folks thought they were junk, so it's good to see a
>> contrary opinion.
>>
>>
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>>
>> From: Bill Dube via EV <<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org>ev@lists.evdl.org>
>>> To: Cor van de Water <<mailto:cwa...@proxim.com>cwa...@proxim.com>,Electric
>>> Vehicle Discussion List <<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org>ev@lists.evdl.org>
>>> Subject: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. Solder or crimp?)
>>> Date: 4/27/16, 8:49 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Harbor freight _always_ has a 20% off one item coupon, somewhere.
>>> Occasionally, a 25% off coupon is sent in mailings, advertizements, etc.
>>> (AARP magazine often has a 25% off coupon.)
>>> You can always get a "free LED flashlight" coupon as well. Be sure to
>>> find one of those.
>>>
>>> They have nice tools, but you must be somewhat selective in what you buy
>>> from Harbor Freight.
>>> Buy the tool (like a band saw) from HF, but buy the replacement
>>> metal-cutting blades, end-mills, and the like, elsewhere. Blades, etc.
>>> for wood and plastic from HF are OK and work great. Drills are OK.
>>> They sell _awesome_ hydraulic tools at a bargain price. Their hand
>>> tools, pneumatic tools, and power tools, have worked well for us for
>>> many years and saved us a ton of money. If you look at photos of our
>>> shop, almost all the tools are HF brand.
>>>
>>> We buy Ryobi cordless tools because they all use the same style battery.
>>> Have for many years, even though they have changed chemistry, the new
>>> batteries fit the old tools. (Even though they cost substantially less,
>>> almost every HF cordless tool uses a different style battery and
>>> charger, so we buy Ryobi.)
>>>
>>> Bill D.
>>>
>>> On 4/26/2016 3:55 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
>>> > Bill,
>>> > Thanks - I am planning to convert my Lead-Acid pack to Li later this
>>> > year
>>> > as it has been deteriorating after 16,500 miles and 4 years of almost
>>> > daily commute, so I probably will need to make new cables for that
>>> > conversion.
>>> > I printed your coupon and noticed that it is valid till end this week,
>>> > then I came home and found the weekly junk mail stash in the mailbox -
>>> > but the back page caught my eye: Harbor Freight ads and a 20% off
>>> > coupon,
>>> > only the paper c

Re: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. Solder or crimp?)

[Bill Dube via EV]

HF has mostly decent quality tools. Not Snap-On super-duper top-end 
quality, but decent utilitarian tools at low prices.


When you are shopping at HF, you have to use common sense, however. 
The label may say "3/4 HP" but if the power cord is thin like a 
noodle and the price is only $15, it probably is only 100 watts and 
will likely not do the job like a brand name tool. (Chinese horses 
are often smaller, I've been told. ;-)  ) I've replaced a few power 
switches over the years as they are typically not well sealed.


I use the 30 in shear/bender/roller constantly.
http://www.harborfreight.com/30-inch-shear-press-brake-and-slip-roll-5907.html

I bought a band saw from HF many years ago and I can't imagine life without it:
http://www.harborfreight.com/14-in-4-speed-woodworking-band-saw-60564.html
I put a new motor with a VFD in it almost as soon as I got it, 
however. (I never buy replacement blades from HF.)


We actually have two of their $15  4 1/2 inch grinders. One for the 
race trailer and one for the shop.

http://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/grinders-buffers/4-12-in-43-amp-angle-grinder-69645.html

Impact wrench (we got it on sale for $79, minus 20% of course)
http://www.harborfreight.com/air-tools/impact-wrenches/12-in-professional-air-impact-wrench-68424.html
(This impact wrench works marvelously, by the way.)

We have bought 100's of their tools over the years. Only rarely have 
I been disappointed.


Bill D.

At 11:15 AM 4/27/2016, Mark Abramowitz wrote:


Interesting.

I was going to buy some stuff from them
awhile back, but decided against it after going online and reading 
reviews. Lots of folks thought they were junk, so it's good to see a 
contrary opinion.



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To: Cor van de Water 
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Subject: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. Solder or crimp?)
Date: 4/27/16, 8:49 AM


Harbor freight _always_ has a 20% off one item coupon, somewhere.
Occasionally, a 25% off coupon is sent in mailings, advertizements, etc.
(AARP magazine often has a 25% off coupon.)
You can always get a "free LED flashlight" coupon as well. Be sure to
find one of those.

They have nice tools, but you must be somewhat selective in what you buy
from Harbor Freight.
Buy the tool (like a band saw) from HF, but buy the replacement
metal-cutting blades, end-mills, and the like, elsewhere. Blades, etc.
for wood and plastic from HF are OK and work great. Drills are OK.
They sell _awesome_ hydraulic tools at a bargain price. Their hand
tools, pneumatic tools, and power tools, have worked well for us for
many years and saved us a ton of money. If you look at photos of our
shop, almost all the tools are HF brand.

We buy Ryobi cordless tools because they all use the same style battery.
Have for many years, even though they have changed chemistry, the new
batteries fit the old tools. (Even though they cost substantially less,
almost every HF cordless tool uses a different style battery and
charger, so we buy Ryobi.)

Bill D.

On 4/26/2016 3:55 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
> Bill,
> Thanks - I am planning to convert my Lead-Acid pack to Li later this
> year
> as it has been deteriorating after 16,500 miles and 4 years of almost
> daily commute, so I probably will need to make new cables for that
> conversion.
> I printed your coupon and noticed that it is valid till end this week,
> then I came home and found the weekly junk mail stash in the mailbox -
> but the back page caught my eye: Harbor Freight ads and a 20% off
> coupon,
> only the paper coupon is valid till July!
> Probably that the digital coupon will get renewed every week or so, but
> it was a nice coincidence to get both at the same day!
>
> Cor van de Water
> Chief Scientist
> Proxim Wireless
>
> office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water
> XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info
>
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> EV
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>
> Harbor Freight sells an outstanding hydraulic crimper at a bargain
> price:
> 
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Re: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. Solder or crimp?)

[Mark Abramowitz via EV]

 
Interesting.
I was going to buy some stuff from them awhile back, but decided against it 
after going online and reading reviews. Lots of folks thought they were junk, 
so it's good to see a contrary opinion.

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 From: Bill Dube via EV  To: Cor van de Water 
,   Electric Vehicle Discussion List  
Subject: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. Solder or crimp?) Date: 
4/27/16, 8:49 AM

 
Harbor freight _always_ has a 20% off one item coupon, somewhere. 
Occasionally, a 25% off coupon is sent in mailings, advertizements, etc.  
(AARP magazine often has a 25% off coupon.) 
You can always get a "free LED flashlight" coupon as well. Be sure to  
find one of those. 
 
They have nice tools, but you must be somewhat selective in what you buy  
from Harbor Freight. 
Buy the tool (like a band saw) from HF, but buy the replacement  
metal-cutting blades, end-mills, and the like, elsewhere. Blades, etc.  
for wood and plastic from HF are OK and work great. Drills are OK. 
They sell _awesome_ hydraulic tools at a bargain price. Their hand  
tools, pneumatic tools, and power tools, have worked well for us for  
many years and saved us a ton of money. If you look at photos of our  
shop, almost all the tools are HF brand. 
 
We buy Ryobi cordless tools because they all use the same style battery.  
Have for many years, even though they have changed chemistry, the new  
batteries fit the old tools. (Even though they cost substantially less,  
almost every HF cordless tool uses a different style battery and  
charger, so we buy Ryobi.) 
 
Bill D. 
 
On 4/26/2016 3:55 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: 
> Bill, 
> Thanks - I am planning to convert my Lead-Acid pack to Li later this 
> year 
> as it has been deteriorating after 16,500 miles and 4 years of almost 
> daily commute, so I probably will need to make new cables for that 
> conversion. 
> I printed your coupon and noticed that it is valid till end this week, 
> then I came home and found the weekly junk mail stash in the mailbox - 
> but the back page caught my eye: Harbor Freight ads and a 20% off 
> coupon, 
> only the paper coupon is valid till July! 
> Probably that the digital coupon will get renewed every week or so, but 
> it was a nice coincidence to get both at the same day! 
> 
> Cor van de Water 
> Chief Scientist 
> Proxim Wireless 
> 
> office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water 
> XoIP   +31 87 784 1130private: cvandewater.info 
> 
> http://www.proxim.com 
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> Subject: Re: [EVDL] J1772. Solder or crimp? 
> 
> Harbor Freight sells an outstanding hydraulic crimper at a bargain 
> price: 
> http://www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html 
> For $55  there is no reason to use a hammer crimper. 
> 
> I have used the next size up from this one, made by the same 
> manufacturer, for about ten years. I have made countless crimps with 
> zero failures. Beautiful crimps of all different sizes with little 
> effort. 
> 
> Here is a 20% off coupon, so you can get a crimper for $44: 
> http://www.harborfreight.com/digitalsavings.html 
> 
>Bill D. 
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Re: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. Solder or crimp?)

[Alan Brinkman via EV]

I purchased a Harbor Freight flux core wire welder several years back with a 
coupon for about $100, about a 90 amp unit. I could not afford anything else. I 
thought I would build a few projects, destroy it, and buy something better. I 
have built a trailer, accessories for a mini-excavator and a skid steer loader, 
and various other projects. The welder just will not die. It uses 3# spools of 
flux wire. I was able to massage a few parts and squeeze in a 20# reel of wire. 
It is more economical, and does not stop your project to load another spool. 
However, the welder is now about 17# heavier due to the wire. I now have a 
larger welder mig/tig? with plasma cutting ability that I have not set up yet 
because the Harbor Freight starter welder won't die. Some problems are ok to 
have. (Ok the plasma cutting requires a LOT of ATTENTION to SAFETY - enough 
said)

Be safe!!

Alan

-Original Message-
From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Bill Dube via EV
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 8:49 AM
To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: [EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. Solder or crimp?)

Harbor freight _always_ has a 20% off one item coupon, somewhere.
Occasionally, a 25% off coupon is sent in mailings, advertizements, etc. 
(AARP magazine often has a 25% off coupon.) You can always get a "free LED 
flashlight" coupon as well. Be sure to find one of those.

They have nice tools, but you must be somewhat selective in what you buy from 
Harbor Freight.
Buy the tool (like a band saw) from HF, but buy the replacement metal-cutting 
blades, end-mills, and the like, elsewhere. Blades, etc. 
for wood and plastic from HF are OK and work great. Drills are OK.
They sell _awesome_ hydraulic tools at a bargain price. Their hand tools, 
pneumatic tools, and power tools, have worked well for us for many years and 
saved us a ton of money. If you look at photos of our shop, almost all the 
tools are HF brand.

We buy Ryobi cordless tools because they all use the same style battery. 
Have for many years, even though they have changed chemistry, the new batteries 
fit the old tools. (Even though they cost substantially less, almost every HF 
cordless tool uses a different style battery and charger, so we buy Ryobi.)

Bill D.

On 4/26/2016 3:55 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
> Bill,
> Thanks - I am planning to convert my Lead-Acid pack to Li later this 
> year as it has been deteriorating after 16,500 miles and 4 years of 
> almost daily commute, so I probably will need to make new cables for 
> that conversion.
> I printed your coupon and noticed that it is valid till end this week, 
> then I came home and found the weekly junk mail stash in the mailbox - 
> but the back page caught my eye: Harbor Freight ads and a 20% off 
> coupon, only the paper coupon is valid till July!
> Probably that the digital coupon will get renewed every week or so, 
> but it was a nice coincidence to get both at the same day!
>
> Cor van de Water
> Chief Scientist
> Proxim Wireless
>
> office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water
> XoIP   +31 87 784 1130private: cvandewater.info
>
> http://www.proxim.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Bill Dube via 
> EV
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 11:30 AM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] J1772. Solder or crimp?
>
> Harbor Freight sells an outstanding hydraulic crimper at a bargain
> price:
> http://www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html
> For $55  there is no reason to use a hammer crimper.
>
> I have used the next size up from this one, made by the same 
> manufacturer, for about ten years. I have made countless crimps with 
> zero failures. Beautiful crimps of all different sizes with little 
> effort.
>
> Here is a 20% off coupon, so you can get a crimper for $44:
> http://www.harborfreight.com/digitalsavings.html
>
>Bill D.
>
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[EVDL] Harbor Freight tools (was: J1772. Solder or crimp?)

[Bill Dube via EV]

Harbor freight _always_ has a 20% off one item coupon, somewhere.
Occasionally, a 25% off coupon is sent in mailings, advertizements, etc. 
(AARP magazine often has a 25% off coupon.)
You can always get a "free LED flashlight" coupon as well. Be sure to 
find one of those.


They have nice tools, but you must be somewhat selective in what you buy 
from Harbor Freight.
Buy the tool (like a band saw) from HF, but buy the replacement 
metal-cutting blades, end-mills, and the like, elsewhere. Blades, etc. 
for wood and plastic from HF are OK and work great. Drills are OK.
They sell _awesome_ hydraulic tools at a bargain price. Their hand 
tools, pneumatic tools, and power tools, have worked well for us for 
many years and saved us a ton of money. If you look at photos of our 
shop, almost all the tools are HF brand.


We buy Ryobi cordless tools because they all use the same style battery. 
Have for many years, even though they have changed chemistry, the new 
batteries fit the old tools. (Even though they cost substantially less, 
almost every HF cordless tool uses a different style battery and 
charger, so we buy Ryobi.)


Bill D.

On 4/26/2016 3:55 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:

Bill,
Thanks - I am planning to convert my Lead-Acid pack to Li later this
year
as it has been deteriorating after 16,500 miles and 4 years of almost
daily commute, so I probably will need to make new cables for that
conversion.
I printed your coupon and noticed that it is valid till end this week,
then I came home and found the weekly junk mail stash in the mailbox -
but the back page caught my eye: Harbor Freight ads and a 20% off
coupon,
only the paper coupon is valid till July!
Probably that the digital coupon will get renewed every week or so, but
it was a nice coincidence to get both at the same day!

Cor van de Water
Chief Scientist
Proxim Wireless
   
office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water

XoIP   +31 87 784 1130private: cvandewater.info

http://www.proxim.com

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-Original Message-
From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Bill Dube via
EV
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 11:30 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] J1772. Solder or crimp?

Harbor Freight sells an outstanding hydraulic crimper at a bargain
price:
http://www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html
For $55  there is no reason to use a hammer crimper.

I have used the next size up from this one, made by the same
manufacturer, for about ten years. I have made countless crimps with
zero failures. Beautiful crimps of all different sizes with little
effort.

Here is a 20% off coupon, so you can get a crimper for $44:
http://www.harborfreight.com/digitalsavings.html

   Bill D.

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