My best friend had a Bugeyed Sprite, It had a 900cc engine and a friend of
ours could pick up the rear end of it while you swapped tires.
It had nothing much that is required for a road worthy car today. It was
basically a go cart with a bigger engine, wipers and a few tiny lights. You
could not
I never said they invented it, the innovation was the modular
packaging/cooling.
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 1:41 PM EV List Lackey via EV
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> On 19 Dec 2022 at 12:28, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
>
> > They took ACPs powertrain, Lotus' chassis, and some pretty innovative
> > laptop 18650 battery
On 19 Dec 2022 at 12:28, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> They took ACPs powertrain, Lotus' chassis, and some pretty innovative
> laptop 18650 battery packaging
Gage and Eberhard / Tesla didn't invent the idea of using massive numbers of
laptop cells. I'm not so sure anyone did, as the concept of
There is no way they could have turned the tZero into a production car. It
would never be able to meet FMVSS, and the battery pack design was super
dangerous. (as such they had a fire)
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 1:23 PM EV List Lackey via EV
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> On 19 Dec 2022 at 11:56, (-Phil-) via EV
I agree with you it takes a lot to go from concept to production vehicle. I
doubt there is anyone on this forum with personal knowledge of who did what.
All I know is what I have read.
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 02:28:39 PM CST, (-Phil-)
wrote:
I don't agree, I think it was
On 19 Dec 2022 at 11:56, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> Yeah, the original Tesla Roadster used the ACP design with very little
> change.
I read somewhere (haven't taken the time to find it again) that rather than
license Alan Cocconi's design, Gage and Eberhard reverse-engineered it for
the Tesla
On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 at 19:55, paul dove via EV wrote:
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> Allen was the engineer that designed the EV1 drive train for GM.
Alan Cocconi designed the twin inverters for the Aerovironment Impact.
The EV1 inverter was designed by Hughes Aerospace.
Ref; "The Car That Could"
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Paul Compton
I don't agree, I think it was pretty genius to recognize the tech ACP had,
and decide to bring it to a successful market offering. APC only really
made the eBox conversion. The tZero was only a "concept" they didn't think
had legs.
They took ACPs powertrain, Lotus' chassis, and some pretty
Yeah, the original Tesla Roadster used the ACP design with very little
change.
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:55 AM paul dove via EV wrote:
> Little known history. The Tesla drive train was purchased from a company
> founded by Allen Cocconi called AC Propulsion. Allen was the engineer that
>
Little known history. The Tesla drive train was purchased from a company
founded by Allen Cocconi called AC Propulsion. Allen was the engineer that
designed the EV1 drive train for GM.
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:33:29 AM CST, Tom Mandera via EV
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Why do we start with an
Why do we start with an ICE roller and convert it to EV? Why don't we
start by machining some wheels on the lathe, some square tubing for
frame rails, start hand laying fiberglass for a body..
It's almost always easier (faster/cheaper) to start with even a flawed
initial implementation than
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