Re: [EVDL] j1772 cable

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Re: [EVDL] j1772 cable

2021-08-29 Thread nathan christiansn via EV
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> When I got my Juicebox charger some years ago, there was apparently a
> manufacturing flaw in the control pilot wire in the charging cable.  The
> wire was broken with no damage to the cover.  After a while it failed.
> I spliced the wire, but to do it I had to remove the cover from the
> cable.  I tried to replace it with some heat shrink, but this never
> worked properly.  So when you move the cable around by the handle, it
> stresses the wires, which then broke again.
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> I got tired of repairing it and bought a new cable.  Would anyone like
> the old one?  I also have most of the parts of a J1772 outlet.
> What's missing is the outer shell that holds the sockets and one of the
> little springs that holds the socket closed.  See attached photo.  If
> you'd like any of this stuff, make me an offer.  At least enough to pay
> for shipping and it's yours.
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> Incidentally there was a comedy of errors when I tried to buy a
> replacement cable from Enel X.  I bought a clearly described 25' cable
> from their web site.  They sent me a 20' cable.  I didn't notice, so I
> wasted an hour connecting it to the charger.  Then it didn't reach from
> the charger to my car.  So I complained to Enel X, and in a couple of
> weeks they sent me another 20' cable.  Fortunately I wasn't fooled again.
> I didn't waste my time but called them up right away.  Finally they got
> somebody to go to their warehouse and find a cable that was actually 25'
> long, not merely one that was in a box labeled "25' cables".
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Re: [EVDL] J1772 cable

2016-12-17 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
This company is in the Czech Republic. According to their 'Transportation Price
List', the cost to ship 1kg is $59, 10kg is $85. The cost of the plug and cord,
including VAT, is $83.49, so the cost is at least $142. 49, not including the
customs you will pay or couple weeks it will take to get here...

TucsonEV.com will send you a J1772 Plug with 20ft of 30A cord for $125 plus
shipping, $18.75 for a total of $143.75 and you'll have it within a week

Rush Dougherty
www.TucsonEV.com


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Re: [EVDL] J1772 cable

2016-12-17 Thread via EV
I ended up going with 
this,https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TPSP760/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8=1
I really didn't want to full with the DIY pilot signal generators.  I already 
have 240V in the garage and I can take this cable with me in the carry case.  
This is for a 2014 Volt, so I think the current will be less than 16A. 

On Saturday, December 17, 2016 3:46 PM, Cor van de Water via EV 
<ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
 

 Hi Rod,
at 16Amp this cable is good for charging an early Leaf or making a 110V
"trickle" charger, not for full L2 charging.
I have never dealt with this company, but I presume that the low
Amperage of the cables are the reason for the low price.
Note that there was an issue with some EVSE vendor cables that were not
crimped to spec and caused overheating in the plug, which can damage the
inlet of the car, so if you go with this cable do make sure to inspect
the crimping of the contacts in the plug and if necessary re-solder them
to make sure they do not more damage than you save with the discount
cable.
(Note: I have bought a similar discount cable from somewhere else myself
and I will make sure to inspect the plug's crimping before putting it
into service)
Be safe,

Cor van de Water 
Chief Scientist 
Proxim Wireless 
  
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From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of via EV
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:37 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: [EVDL] J1772 cable

I found this low cost cable and wondered if anybody has dealt with this
company?EV-Power | J1772 Plug for EV car L2 charging (16 Amp - 5 meters,
no electronics) - SALE!

  
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Re: [EVDL] J1772 cable

2016-12-17 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Hi Rod,
at 16Amp this cable is good for charging an early Leaf or making a 110V
"trickle" charger, not for full L2 charging.
I have never dealt with this company, but I presume that the low
Amperage of the cables are the reason for the low price.
Note that there was an issue with some EVSE vendor cables that were not
crimped to spec and caused overheating in the plug, which can damage the
inlet of the car, so if you go with this cable do make sure to inspect
the crimping of the contacts in the plug and if necessary re-solder them
to make sure they do not more damage than you save with the discount
cable.
(Note: I have bought a similar discount cable from somewhere else myself
and I will make sure to inspect the plug's crimping before putting it
into service)
Be safe,

Cor van de Water 
Chief Scientist 
Proxim Wireless 
  
office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water 
XoIP   +31 87 784 1130private: cvandewater.info 

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From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of via EV
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:37 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: [EVDL] J1772 cable

I found this low cost cable and wondered if anybody has dealt with this
company?EV-Power | J1772 Plug for EV car L2 charging (16 Amp - 5 meters,
no electronics) - SALE!

  
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EV Plug with 5 meter ca...  |   |

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[EVDL] J1772 cable

2016-12-17 Thread via EV
I found this low cost cable and wondered if anybody has dealt with this 
company?EV-Power | J1772 Plug for EV car L2 charging (16 Amp - 5 meters, no 
electronics) - SALE!

  
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[EVDL] J1772 cable splitter charges two 3kW plugins off a L2 6kW EVSE, +

2014-08-31 Thread brucedp5 via EV


[ref
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVangel-about-retrofit-CT-2100-EVSE-to-have-L2-6kW-3kW-access-tp4671320.html
EVangel-about: retrofit CT-2100 EVSE to have L2 6kW  3kW access
]

I recently took a few images of a few EVSE sites and threw them up on a web
site for you all to see
http://brucedp14.altervista.org/evse14/

Take a look at the 3rd image where it shows a ccg/ECOtality Blink L3 EVSE
with covers over the two displays. The covers are blue plastic static mats
that the company's drivers decided to use as a way to protect the displays
from the intense sun and heat wave we are having in CA. The display on a
Blink EVSE is a major failure item.

Installer's decision to install all their EVSE facing the sun was really
quite dumb. If the L2 EVSE had been Coulomb's Chargepoint EVSE which has a
bright gas display, it would not have mattered. But the sun is so bright,
the driver wanting a charge has a difficult time viewing Blink's LCD display
even when they are working. It would have been wiser to reverse the position
of the EVSE when it was installed so it faced away from the sun. These are
one of many points that EVSE companies and their contract installers do not
care about, but the drivers that use the EVSE do.

Note the fourth image showing a j1772 splitter / Y box 
http://brucedp14.altervista.org/evse14/evse-ca-rwc-silverspringnetworks-20140821-002am.jpg
one of the drivers put together that allows two plugins with 3kW on-board
chargers charge off one 6kW Blink L2 EVSE. This is a better utilization of
their company's EVSE (it saves them money in the long run by not having to
install more EVSE).

And that brings me to a point that although the amount of EVSE in the SF Bay
Area is quite good when compared to other parts of N. America, the amount of
plugin vehicles has grown to already max-out that EV charging capacity (all
the EVSE are being fully utilized).

Next look at the EVSE that was installed at a Jr. College. After talking to
several people on-site, it turns out that the EVSE in the staff parking lot
is only for them, and the EVSE in the student/public lot is for everyone
else. Note these are the lower purchase cost Schneider L2 6kW EVSE that are
using Coulomb's Chargepoint EVSE network (you need one of their rfid cards
to activate them). Their parking signs say a 4 hour limit.

In both lots, all the EV spaces were being used by plugins that only had a
L2 3kW charger on-board. It is too bad there are no public EVSE for sale
that have two J1772 couplers, designed to charge two plugins that only need
3kW each like the way that splitter Y box allows, or to allow a 6kW charge
if there is only one EV using that EVSE (that approach is similar to what
Tesla EVSE do: adjust and spread the charging power load out across the EVs
that are plugged-in). That would be better than what the Blink L3 EVSE does:
only charge one EV at a time.

Next, I was able to find where a Nissan dealership relocated their L3 EVSE.
The Leaf sales rep gave me incorrect instructions (typical of a sale rep),
and when I came back to inform him of where it really was he said Yea, that
is where I told you it was (no he didn't).

You can also see that same Nissan branded L3 EVSE has been installed at both
a library and a parking garage. But both of those have blue-taped paper
signs on them saying they are not operational pending approval. So, what all
the money was spend to buy them, install them, and they can not be used?!? 

Leaving EVSE out in the public unused is asking for trouble. In this case
the brand new L3 EVSE at the library had already been vandalized (they
smashed the screen so that EVSE is now unusable even when it does get
approval).

The images below that are not recent and on my to do list to get more recent
images. But I can tell you that those older images showing the EVSE as under
used, are an example of how much the need for EVSE has grown, as those EV
spaces today are now much more used from so many more plugin drivers.

The second from the last image shows the aforementioned combo Coulomb
CT-2100 EVSE that have both a L2 6kW j1772 coupler and a L1 1.3kW 5-20
outlet (behind a metal cover-door). At that site, those EV spaces are now
packed full / well used. Especially now that the city sold a parking lot
that you can see in the last image. The new owner of the land is building a
huge multi-story apt/condo complex on it.

I am hoping to contact the city's fleet manager to request that the EVSE
they must have yanked and saved, should be relocated to another site that
will better serve the citizens that is farther away and nearer to another
major highway (280). 

While I make these efforts, I have been told by the powers that be, that I
am only a hobbyist (an amateur, someone not to be listened to). Sadly, who
those powers do listen to are not the people who use the EVSE (like
drivers/us), but those so called EVSE professionals that installed the EVSE
completely wrong (see above). Yet, I 

Re: [EVDL] J1772 cable splitter charges two 3kW plugins off a L2 6kW EVSE, +

2014-08-31 Thread David Rees via EV
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Mike Nickerson via EV
ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
 There is a Chargepoint EVSE that does have two J1772 ports.  Each port can 
 charge at 6 kW if used alone.  If both ports are being used, they get 3 kW 
 each.  Chargepoint calls this charge sharing.  The EVSE is fed with a single 
 40A / 240V line.

 HP in Boise installed two of these early this year.  I would have to look up 
 the model number.

http://www.chargepoint.com/stations/

CT4021 or CT4023. Seems like a no-brainer to install these over the
single plug stations, but Chargepoint does charge a lot for their
hardware.

There is an open source solution, too, called the Hydra. It plugs into
any J1772 EVSE and allows multiple EVSEs to split the available
current.

https://code.google.com/p/open-evse/wiki/Hydra

-Dave
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