Re: [EVDL] tesla's sneaky rolling stops

2022-02-03 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Wed Feb 02 21:58:43 PST 2022 somebody said: >On Wed Feb 02 10:17:21 PST 2022 John Lussmyer said: > >>I detest rolling stops. Major reason for accidents. Any one who doesn't make >>a full stop every time they encounter a stop sign or right on red is a moron. >>Allowing drivers to select this

Re: [EVDL] tesla's sneaky rolling stops

2022-02-03 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Is the EVtradingpost dead?

2022-02-03 Thread Mike Chancey via EV
Yes, the EV Tradin' Post is gone. I handed it off to Aaron Choate a number of years ago and he kept it going awhile, then it got buried in spammers so he retired it. It really would take a lot of new code and vigilance to survive in today's internet. Mike Chancey Webmaster EV Album

Re: [EVDL] tesla's sneaky rolling stops

2022-02-03 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Thu Feb 03 08:08:13 PST 2022 dov...@bellsouth.net said: >Results: Stop sign violations accounted for about 70% of all crashes. >Typically these crashes were angular collisions. Among crashes not involving >stop violations, rear-end crashes were most common, accounting for about 12% >of all

Re: [EVDL] tesla's sneaky rolling stops

2022-02-03 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 3 Feb 2022 at 7:27, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > You didn't answer the question, you just re-iterated that they shouldn't be > allowed to be done by an advanced AI system with far better observation > capabilities than a human. > > Why shouldn't an AI be allowed to do them? Completely aside

Re: [EVDL] tesla's sneaky rolling stops

2022-02-03 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] tesla's sneaky rolling stops

2022-02-03 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Some years ago when self-driving was just emerging, the engineers implemented the exact vehicle code and made the car come to a full stop, before the white line and await its turn. What the practice provided on the streets was that the vehicle was too polite, they had a large number of incidents

Re: [EVDL] tesla's sneaky rolling stops

2022-02-03 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
So, you are saying that a very powerful computer that is specifically designed to detect things that might cause a collision, is just as bad as the average half-asleep, fiddling with their phone, human driver? It did not make the decision.  A human told it to do so. So now that option is being