Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Calling all owners of cheap Chinese EV's? (the Jonway Massimo / Mullen 100e / Atomic-EV / etc)
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: The Made by ZAP is that the same vehicle? Can they help you to get info on the controller? I initially contacted the ZAP motors folks when I was interested in the vehicle. On their web site it still says coming soon to the USA. Well, it's for sale in the USA, it's just not through them directly. They put me in touch with a reseller, who I have since reached out to (no response from them yet). Else it will simply be a matter of trying - take a multimeter and measure the voltage on the pins of the connector. If you see one that is between 6 and 12V and occasionally dips (varies) in voltage then that might be an RS232 TX line. Oscilloscope will tell you if it is a digital comm signal. I am by no means an electrical engineer. But I have done quite a bit of fooling around in with multi-meters and serial connections over the years. I have a nice breadboard / breakout board ready for the task. But I haven't been able to find a 10-pin DIN that fits that weird interface. I have been digging through Digi-keys catalog and I found a few that *might* fit. But most 10 pin DIN's are three distinct rows of straight aligned pins. And this thing is intentionally different. I am trying to avoid making any direct connections or clipping any wires. Seeing the 5 connectors: red, black and 3 color outputs, tells me that this is an AC controller. I presume that the connectors with the double row of contacts are the control inputs (switches, sensors and throttle) but in my controller, there is also a serial interface on one of these connectors (but that is not a chinese controller). Even if you can find the serial port connections, it will be another challenge to find out how to program it... You are correct! The double rows of pins on that side are where my standard controls connect. Perhaps they run elsewhere into the vehicle and there is a serial port there? I don't have a wiring map for this vehicle. I would love to get my hands on a service manual. But something tells me it would need translated. There isn't a whole lot to this thing, and it's very easy to take apart. If I can get some warm weather out here I will strip her down and go on an Easter egg hunt. Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com Hey, kudos on your wireless cards. We have bought quite a few at work (a hospital). Not that you need my say so, but your stuff is top notch. ;-) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Calling all owners of cheap Chinese EV's? (the Jonway Massimo / Mullen 100e / Atomic-EV / etc)
Steve, The Made by ZAP is that the same vehicle? Can they help you to get info on the controller? Else it will simply be a matter of trying - take a multimeter and measure the voltage on the pins of the connector. If you see one that is between 6 and 12V and occasionally dips (varies) in voltage then that might be an RS232 TX line. Oscilloscope will tell you if it is a digital comm signal. Seeing the 5 connectors: red, black and 3 color outputs, tells me that this is an AC controller. I presume that the connectors with the double row of contacts are the control inputs (switches, sensors and throttle) but in my controller, there is also a serial interface on one of these connectors (but that is not a chinese controller). Even if you can find the serial port connections, it will be another challenge to find out how to program it... Success! Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com Email: cwa...@proxim.comPrivate: http://www.cvandewater.info Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP: +31877841130 Tel: +1 408 383 7626Tel: +91 (040)23117400 x203 -Original Message- From: EV on behalf of Steve Ballantyne via EV Sent: Fri 3/6/2015 6:52 PM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: [EVDL] Fwd: Calling all owners of cheap Chinese EV's? (the Jonway Massimo / Mullen 100e / Atomic-EV / etc) I bought myself a big expensive toy a few weeks ago. It's a Jonway Massimo MSE-220. This is also being sold as a Mullen Motors e100, or an Atomic-EV, or probably a dozen other names. This car is being cranked out in mass numbers over in China, and begun to show up here. Only problem is that there doesn't seem to be a whole lot written on them. I was given a manual with mine from www.jonwayauto.com which looks to have been translated from Mandarin to English using an online translator (it's rough readin'). I am working on correcting all of the mistakes, and I will be publishing that soon (to somewhere). I have to assume that there is someone else out there that has one of these. And is looking for 'friends' to share information with. For instance - I would like to try to find a way to lift the speed restrictions on my controller. But it's an unmarked Chinese number and I can't find anything online about it. I tore my controller out and opened it up today and I don't see any easy way to lift the restrictions. There is a strange 10 pin DIN port on the side, which I would think might be a serial interface. But then again it may be for accessories, service troubleshooting, etc. Here are some pictures I took today: https://plus.google.com/photos/100430129794260842281/albums/6122935252456685905?authkey=CLSS8ZD567rmZQ Perhaps if any of you out there have worked on something similar, you can offer some advice. If you also own one of these, or you have a friend who does, put them in touch with me. We need a fan club! Steve Ballantyne Network Engineer MCSE/MCDST; Novell CLA; LPIC-1; CTT+; A+; Network+; Linux+; Server+; I-Net+; Security+; SonicWALL CSSA ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 5059 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150306/805bd361/attachment.bin ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Calling all owners of cheap Chinese EV's? (the Jonway Massimo / Mullen 100e / Atomic-EV / etc)
I wish you luck. I've not had a lot of luck with my chinese controller. It *is* possible to get info on the controller, but only if you can find someone at one of the companies that sells the parts. As an aside, I *was* able to get a CD with some update software, but it was a major struggle to find, and I still haven't been able to use it due to other issues (extreme noise on the 12v system). If I see something on this, I'll be sure to let you know. Cheers, Peter On 3/6/15 6:52 PM, Steve Ballantyne via EV wrote: I bought myself a big expensive toy a few weeks ago. It's a Jonway Massimo MSE-220. This is also being sold as a Mullen Motors e100, or an Atomic-EV, or probably a dozen other names. This car is being cranked out in mass numbers over in China, and begun to show up here. Only problem is that there doesn't seem to be a whole lot written on them. I was given a manual with mine from www.jonwayauto.com which looks to have been translated from Mandarin to English using an online translator (it's rough readin'). I am working on correcting all of the mistakes, and I will be publishing that soon (to somewhere). I have to assume that there is someone else out there that has one of these. And is looking for 'friends' to share information with. For instance - I would like to try to find a way to lift the speed restrictions on my controller. But it's an unmarked Chinese number and I can't find anything online about it. I tore my controller out and opened it up today and I don't see any easy way to lift the restrictions. There is a strange 10 pin DIN port on the side, which I would think might be a serial interface. But then again it may be for accessories, service troubleshooting, etc. Here are some pictures I took today: https://plus.google.com/photos/100430129794260842281/albums/6122935252456685905?authkey=CLSS8ZD567rmZQ Perhaps if any of you out there have worked on something similar, you can offer some advice. If you also own one of these, or you have a friend who does, put them in touch with me. We need a fan club! Steve Ballantyne Network Engineer MCSE/MCDST; Novell CLA; LPIC-1; CTT+; A+; Network+; Linux+; Server+; I-Net+; Security+; SonicWALL CSSA ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)