Re: Implications of MWI

2005-04-28 Thread Jesse Mazer
From: Norman Samish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Implications of MWI Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:30:31 -0700 Jonathan, If it is true that “In infinite time and infinite space, whatever can happen, must happen, not only once but an infinite

Re: Implications of MWI

2005-04-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 27-avr.-05, à 23:30, Mark Fancey a écrit : I am taking this from the saying: 'everything that can happen does happen and is happening right now' Right, but only with a measure relative to your actual state. It would be absurd not to drink coffee when you want it under the pretext

Re: Free Will Theorem

2005-04-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
I will suppose the message of Russell was for the list, and forward it (without the attachment :). Russell, dont hesitate to tell me where are you stuck in UDA. Same question for Hal Finney. A summary of UDA: http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/publications/SANE2004Slide.pdf Explanation can

Re: many worlds theory of immortality: May only be the Anthropic Principle

2005-04-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Stephen, You wrote: snip ... (I am ignoring my own allergy to the idea that 1st person aspects can be faithfully represented by Turing algorithms.) ... I take the opportunity of that statement to insist on a key point which is admittedly not obvious. The fact is that I am also

Re: Implications of MWI

2005-04-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
Rather the same for me. QTI or just compi makes disappear the fear of death ... only to (re)discover that the real fear is the fear of life ... (and of course this makes immortality a rather bad new ...). But also, I have no certainties at all, and such mood/feeling is driven much more by

Re: Implications of MWI

2005-04-28 Thread John M
Jesse, thanks for the explanation you gave to Norman. I did not want to ask something similar, so I benefit from it as well. My question however is a more fundamental one: why are we stuck in a MWI or its infinitely expanded format, where qualia, systems, functions, ideation, whatever are

Re: Implications of MWI

2005-04-28 Thread Russell Standish
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 04:00:10PM -0400, John M wrote: Jesse, thanks for the explanation you gave to Norman. I did not want to ask something similar, so I benefit from it as well. My question however is a more fundamental one: why are we stuck in a MWI or its infinitely expanded format,

Re: Implications of MWI

2005-04-28 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Norman Samish writes: Jonathan, If it is true that “In infinite time and infinite space, whatever can happen, must happen, not only once but an infinite number of times,” then what does probability mean? In your example below, there must be an infinity of worlds where Colin Powell is