Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-01 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 3/1/07, Tom Caylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you're seeking to break out of this circularity by introducing God, who doesn't need a creator, designer, source of meaning or morality, containing these qualities in himself necessarily rather than contingently. If you're happy to say

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-01 Thread Mark Peaty
MP: . That is one thing. Another thing is that no entity or set of entities could know if their 'simulation' attempt was doing what they wanted in every detail because to attempt to find this out would interfere irreversibly with the unfolding of the world. Brent: This assumes that

Re: Believing ...

2007-03-01 Thread John M
Well, Brent, this was a post that requires multiple replies (marked JM) and a longer reflection (with my apologies). * ...individuals within that belief system will have a variety of views. Some will have some views in conflict with the belief system. JM: right. Some are converted to Islam as

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-01 Thread Tom Caylor
On Mar 1, 5:26 am, Stathis Papaioannou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/1/07, Tom Caylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you're seeking to break out of this circularity by introducing God, who doesn't need a creator, designer, source of meaning or morality, containing these qualities in

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-01 Thread Brent Meeker
Tom Caylor wrote: On Feb 26, 4:33 pm, Stathis Papaioannou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/27/07, Tom Caylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing that is different in this realm of true morality is that the Creator is a person that we can get to know (not totally, but in a process of growth just

Re: Believing in Divine Destiny is one of the pillars of faith, and, in accordance with this belief, everything in the universe is determined by God, the All-Mighty. While there are countless absolute

2007-03-01 Thread Brent Meeker
Mark Peaty wrote: No Brent, what I AM saying is that they are GONE! Well and truly gorrnn! But they lasted a lot longer than we have. We could get side tracked into all sorts of discussions about how each of the civilisations you named, waxed and waned more than once in the

Re: Believing ...

2007-03-01 Thread Brent Meeker
John M wrote: Well, Brent, this was a post that requires multiple replies (marked JM) and a longer reflection (with my apologies). * ...individuals within that belief system will have a variety of views. Some will have some views in conflict with the belief system. JM: right. Some are