Mark Peaty wrote:
> No Brent, what I AM saying is that they are GONE! Well and truly
But they lasted a lot longer than we have.
> We could get side tracked into all sorts of discussions about how each
> of the civilisations you named, waxed and waned more than once in the
> face of environmental changes and the inherent instability of feudal
> societies, but I haven't got the time [fascinating though it would be :-].
> My point is that, with all due respect to the late Douglas Adams, and I
> suppose to whoever it was who wrote the book of Daniel in the
> Judaeo-Xian Bible, the TRUE
> "Writing on the Wall" AKA God's last message to humankind, is five short
> words in plain-English:
> * Shape up or die out!
> What I say is if we really want to 'shape up' and survive, then
> compassion, democracy, ethics and scientific method are four essential
> ingredients without which our modern world will go the way of all those
> other civilisations your mentioned.
It will go the way of those other civilizations anyway because: a) it's
dependent on energy from cheap oil and b) all civilizations rise and fall, none
Nations and empires flourish and decay,
By turns command, and in their turns obey.
--- Publius Ovidius Naso
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