Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-30 Thread Kory Heath
On Oct 28, 2008, at 12:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Measure theory is the branch of math which has been invented to tackle those infinities, and those similarity relations. I don't know much about measure theory. I understand a bit about how it's supposed to tackle those infinities, but I

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 Oct 2008, at 07:51, Kory Heath wrote: On Oct 28, 2008, at 12:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Measure theory is the branch of math which has been invented to tackle those infinities, and those similarity relations. I don't know much about measure theory. I understand a bit about how

Re: Emotions

2008-10-30 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2008/10/30 Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The seven first steps of the UD Argument show this already indeed, if you accept some Occam Razor. The movie graph is a much subtle argument showing you don't need occam razor: not only a machine cannot distinguish real from virtual, but cannot

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-30 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2008/10/30 Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To make a prediction on the future from the past you have to remember the past (or at least some relevant part of the past). If you allow (partial) amnesia, it could depend on many things including the type of computations allowing the amnesia: it

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 2008/10/30 Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The seven first steps of the UD Argument show this already indeed, if you accept some Occam Razor. The movie graph is a much subtle argument showing you don't need occam razor: not only a machine cannot distinguish

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-30 Thread Michael Rosefield
At some point, doesn't it just become far more likely that the teleporter just doesn't work? I know that might seem like dodging the question, but it might be fundamentally impossible to ignore all possibilities. 2008/10/30 Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stathis Papaioannou wrote:

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-30 Thread Kory Heath
On Oct 30, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: But ok, perhaps I have make some progress lately, and I will answer that the probability remains invariant for that too. The probability remains equal to 1/2 in the imperfect duplication (assuming 1/2 is the perfect one). But of

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-30 Thread Brent Meeker
Kory Heath wrote: On Oct 30, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: But ok, perhaps I have make some progress lately, and I will answer that the probability remains invariant for that too. The probability remains equal to 1/2 in the imperfect duplication (assuming 1/2 is the perfect

Re: Emotions

2008-10-30 Thread Russell Standish
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:48:11PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 29 Oct 2008, at 06:09, Russell Standish wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:04:15AM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: Ah! See my papers for a proof that indeed consciousness does not emerge from brain function. See the