Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-04-22 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: You are the only one defining free will in terms of an absence of causality. I see clearly that causality arises out of feeling and free will. It isn't the absence of causality, it isn't the presence of causality.

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-04-22 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Apr 22, 10:22 am, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: You are the only one defining free will in terms of an absence of causality. I see clearly that causality arises out of feeling and free will. It

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-04-22 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:46 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: It isn't the absence of causality, it isn't the presence of causality. What does that leave? The creation of causality. But are decisions that a person makes freely caused or uncaused? By this reasoning nothing

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-04-22 Thread John Mikes
Silly Subject: so far nobody could tell *H O W* * *a *brain*(tissue-comp?) could *MIND *a*nything? (*react, maybe. ) I still wait for a refusal to my statement that there may not be any FREE will in a partially known environment with unknown factors yet influencing (all?) the occurrences? In

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-04-22 Thread meekerdb
On 4/22/2012 7:22 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Craig Weinbergwhatsons...@gmail.com wrote: You are the only one defining free will in terms of an absence of causality. I see clearly that causality arises out of feeling and free will. It isn't the absence of

Re: From 1905 the SRT doesn’t give sleep.

2012-04-22 Thread Jesse Mazer
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 10:40 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: From 1905 the SRT doesn’t give sleep. 1. One postulate of SRT takes vacuum as reference frame. Another postulate of SRT takes inertial reference frame (s). No, none of the postulates take the vacuum as a

Re: From 1905 the SRT doesn’t give sleep.

2012-04-22 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
No, none of the postulates take the vacuum as a reference frame, which doesn't make sense since a vacuum doesn't have a measurable rest frame (there are no landmarks in a vacuum that could be used to measure the velocity of the vacuum relative to anything else). One postulate does talk about

Re: From 1905 the SRT doesn’t give sleep.

2012-04-22 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
# If we measure the speed of quantum of light in vacuum from different inertial frames the result will be the *same* - constant. Why? Because all different inertial frames ( stars and planets of billion s and billions galaxies ) exist in infinite motionless, stationary, fixed (rest) reference