Re: MIND|CONSTRUCT

2012-05-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
John, On 28 Apr 2012, at 22:51, John Mikes wrote: Bruno, I confess to ignorance (not the elegant agnosticism) towards the UM ('you'?). Are you sure you know who you (the UM=you) are? I don't know who I am. But I am *pretty sure* that you and me are, at the least, (local) universal

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-02 Thread John Clark
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote: If awareness is primordial, I think it's fundamental. there is really nothing more or less to say about it other than that it is primordial orientation itself. So awareness is the feeling data has when it is

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-02 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 2, 1:29 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote: If awareness is primordial, I think it's fundamental. Do you consider the terms to be the same or different? there is really nothing more or less to say