Re: Leonard Susskind | Lecture 2: Black Holes and the Holographic Principle

2018-05-08 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎May‎ ‎8‎, ‎2018‎ ‎02‎:‎42‎:‎47‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 3:37:12 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 1:41 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: ​> ​The firewall

Re: Leonard Susskind | Lecture 2: Black Holes and the Holographic Principle

2018-05-08 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 3:37:12 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 1:41 PM, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > ​> ​ >> The firewall occurs because Hawking radiation that is emitted is >> entangled with the black hole. However, once the black hole is

Re: Entanglement

2018-05-08 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 10:40:31 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 4 May 2018, at 20:35, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 1:58:04 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 4 May 2018, at 05:46, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:12:31

Re: Leonard Susskind | Lecture 2: Black Holes and the Holographic Principle

2018-05-08 Thread John Clark
On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 1:41 PM, Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: ​> ​ > The firewall occurs because Hawking radiation that is emitted is entangled > with the black hole. However, once the black hole is reduced to half its > mass more of the Hawking radiation is

Re: Leonard Susskind | Lecture 2: Black Holes and the Holographic Principle

2018-05-08 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 12:30:51 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:01 AM, Brent Meeker > wrote: > > ​> ​ >> * an atomic clock lowered to near the event horizon will measure the >> frequency of a photon that is a few ev far from the black to have

Re: Entanglement of macro objects

2018-05-08 Thread Brent Meeker
On 5/8/2018 12:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 4 May 2018, at 12:57, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: ... It may not fundamentally exist, and if it does there are then deep questions on how quantum mechanics builds up this

Re: Leonard Susskind | Lecture 2: Black Holes and the Holographic Principle

2018-05-08 Thread John Clark
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:01 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: ​> ​ > * an atomic clock lowered to near the event horizon will measure the > frequency of a photon that is a few ev far from the black to have very high > energy. So what looks like low temperature Hawking radiation at

Re: Entanglement

2018-05-08 Thread John Clark
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 12:22 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote: ​> ​ > Classical situations involving the second law of thermodynamics > (increasing entropy) are reversible, though reversal is improbable because > the second law is statistical. ​If you had to bet which of our

Re: Is the Continuum Hypothesis a) really true or really false, or b) something else ?

2018-05-08 Thread John Clark
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > > > >> ​>​ >> I think you're confused about the difference between what a model says >> and what reality says. One model may say you can safely march across that >> bridge and another model might say the bridge will

Re: Is the Continuum Hypothesis a) really true or really false, or b) something else ?

2018-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 8 May 2018, at 02:20, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 11:51:46 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 7 May 2018, at 03:19, Brent Meeker >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 5/6/2018 6:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

Re: Is the Continuum Hypothesis a) really true or really false, or b) something else ?

2018-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 8 May 2018, at 01:32, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > ​> ​in some model CH is true (Gödel) and in some model CH is false (Cohen). > > That is incorrect. Godel showed

Re: Mind Uploading

2018-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 7 May 2018, at 22:42, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > ​> ​You invoke your God “Matter” > > ​Gee, I don't think I've ever hear that insult from you before.​ You did.

Re: Entanglement

2018-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 4 May 2018, at 20:35, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 1:58:04 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 4 May 2018, at 05:46, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:12:31 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 2 May 2018, at 10:53,

Re: Entanglement

2018-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 4 May 2018, at 15:56, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > >> From: Bruno Marchal > >>> On 4 May 2018, at 01:03, Bruce Kellett < >>> bhkell...@optusnet.com.au >>>

Re: time arrow, measurement, superposition

2018-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 6 May 2018, at 22:26, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 8:03:10 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 6:01:20 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 2 May 2018, at 15:51, agrays...@gmail.com <> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday,

Re: time arrow, measurement, superposition

2018-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 6 May 2018, at 22:03, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 6:01:20 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 2 May 2018, at 15:51, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 1:31:51 PM UTC, scerir wrote: >> Here below a point made by

Re: What is a Löbian machine/number/combinator

2018-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 5 May 2018, at 10:58, spudboy100 via Everything List > wrote: > > > The Lobian Machines arise from a universe, infinite in time and extent. They arise of the semi-computable part of the arithmetical reality (or anything Turing equivalent). A physical

Re: Entanglement of macro objects

2018-05-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 4 May 2018, at 12:57, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 8:26:18 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 1 May 2018, at 13:02, Lawrence Crowell > > wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, May 1, 2018 at 3:53:19 AM