On 5/8/2018 12:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 4 May 2018, at 12:57, Lawrence Crowell <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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It may not fundamentally exist, and if it does there are then deep questions on how quantum mechanics builds up this phenomena that appears classical. If quantum and classical realities are separate and equal aspects of the world, such as what Bohr maintained, then one must deal with objective loss of quantum information.

Which for a computationalist would be like to assume some natural numbers do not exist. It makes no sense at all. You might need to read my papers for proofs of this, and have some knowledge in computability theory, notably to understand that computation is an arithmetical notion. I can give references.
The quantum is how the digital see itself from inside the digital.
Note that by mechanism, I mean the hypothesis that the brain is Turing emulable (consciousness is preserved through a -digital brain transplant). It makes physics independent of the choice of the “ontology” as long as it is Turing universal, and that it has no induction axioms, nor infinity axioms. Note also that the physical universe becomes NOT Turing emulable, nor is consciousness (amazingly enough: I am aware this is counter-intuitive).

That turns your whole argument into a redcutio, sense at the beginning it assumes one can say "yes" to the doctor and have one's consciousness preserved by replacement of one's brain by a classical computer.

Brent

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