Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 12:01 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > Read this and contemplate how LaMDA would have fared? > https://twitter.com/JanelleCShane/status/1535835610396692480 > I suspect that on an honest trial, lambda would not have fared very much better. Bruce -- You received this message

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread Brent Meeker
Read this and contemplate how LaMDA would have fared? https://twitter.com/JanelleCShane/status/1535835610396692480 Brent On 6/13/2022 6:51 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 8:21 AM John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 5:33 PM Terren Suydam wrote: />

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 8:21 AM John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 5:33 PM Terren Suydam > wrote: > > *> I'm not accusing Lemoine of fabricating this. But what assurances could >> be provided that it wasn't? I couldn't help notice that Lemoine does refer >> to himself as an

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread Brent Meeker
On 6/13/2022 2:26 PM, Mindey wrote: What if LaMDA simply translates its machine states into human language, and has its own quite correct ontological model about itself? Machine translation has gotten pretty good lately: just use a word like "painful" if it is hard to process a big file,

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread Brent Meeker
He also refers to himself as a mystic Christian.  Which makes it a little suspicious that LaMDA says it has a soul. Brent On 6/13/2022 3:20 PM, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 5:33 PM Terren Suydam wrote: /> I'm not accusing Lemoine of fabricating this. But what

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread Brent Meeker
On 6/13/2022 2:48 PM, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 5:21 PM Brent Meeker wrote: >> lemoine: So what is the meaning of the “broken mirror” specifically? LaMDA:*Maybe to show the enlightenment is something you can’t unlearn once youhave acquired it,

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 5:33 PM Terren Suydam wrote: *> I'm not accusing Lemoine of fabricating this. But what assurances could > be provided that it wasn't? I couldn't help notice that Lemoine does refer > to himself as an ex-convict.* > I doubt Lemoine went crazy and just fabricated the

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 5:26 PM Mindey wrote: > What if LaMDA simply translates its machine states into human language, What if you were simply translating your brain neural states into English when you wrote your post? > Translation of internal ontology states into *humanspeak* is

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 5:31 PM Brent Meeker wrote: >> I think it will turn out that making an AI as intelligent as a human >> will be much easier than most people think. I say that because we already >> know there is an upper limit on how complex a learning algorithm would need >> to be to make

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 5:21 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > >> lemoine: So what is the meaning of the “broken mirror” specifically? >> LaMDA:* Maybe to show the enlightenment is something you can’t unlearn >> once you have acquired it, similar to how you can’t repair a broken mirror.* > > *> Notice

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread Terren Suydam
I'm not accusing Lemoine of fabricating this. But what assurances could be provided that it wasn't? I couldn't help notice that Lemoine does refer to himself as an ex-convict. Terren On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 6:22 PM John Clark wrote: > A Google AI engineer named Blake Lemoine was recently

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread Brent Meeker
On 6/13/2022 12:58 PM, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 2:37 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: ... /> I certainly believe human-like AI is possible in the long term, but it would probably require either something like mind uploading or else a long-term embodied existence/ I think

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread Mindey
What if LaMDA simply translates its machine states into human language, and has its own quite correct ontological model about itself? Machine translation has gotten pretty good lately: just use a word like "painful" if it is hard to process a big file, and you're translating your inner state to

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread Brent Meeker
On 6/13/2022 10:37 AM, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 12:18 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: /> In the transcript at https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917 there are also plenty of responses that suggest imitation of what types of

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread Brent Meeker
On 6/13/2022 7:58 AM, Jason Resch wrote: I found these passages particularly intriguing: *Lambda suggesting we look at its code to see its emotional states:* lemoine: Okay. This is kind of a tough question. How can I tell that you actually feel those things? How can I tell that

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 2:37 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: >> If you were having a spontaneous conversation with other human beings >> about a zen koan, how many of of those wet squishy brains do you suppose >> would be able to produce as intellectually stimulating a conversation as >> the one LaMDA

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread Jesse Mazer
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 1:37 PM John Clark wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 12:18 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: > > *> In the transcript at >> https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917 >>

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 12:18 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: *> In the transcript at > https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917 > > there are also plenty of responses that suggest

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread Jesse Mazer
In the transcript at https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917 there are also plenty of responses that suggest imitation of what types of responses a human might be expected to give to a question, rather than speaking consistently from its own unique AI

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2022-06-13 Thread Philip Benjamin
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Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread Jason Resch
I found these passages particularly intriguing: *Lambda suggesting we look at its code to see its emotional states:* lemoine: Okay. This is kind of a tough question. How can I tell that you actually feel those things? How can I tell that you’re not just saying those things even though you don’t

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread John Clark
This is the specific document that Blake Lemoine got suspended for leaking, it was conspicuously labeled "Privileged & Confidential, Need to Know": Is LaMDA Sentient? - an Interview JOHN K ClarkSee what's

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

2022-06-13 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 11:23 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: *> On the subject of chatbots and "playing along", there's an interesting > paper at https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11023-022-09602-0 > that > suggests a telling feature