Re: Is Many Worlds Falsifiable?

2023-09-06 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 1:20 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: *> I tend to agree with Deutsch's intuitions on this but I think it gets > into philosophical questions like whether the pilot wave being in some > computational sense equivalent to MWI means that observers in other > branches are "real", have the

Re: Is Many Worlds Falsifiable?

2023-09-06 Thread Jesse Mazer
I tend to agree with Deutsch's intuitions on this but I think it gets into philosophical questions like whether the pilot wave being in some computational sense equivalent to MWI means that observers in other branches are "real", have their own distinct conscious experiences etc. It seems like it's

Re: Is Many Worlds Falsifiable?

2023-09-06 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 12:38 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: *> Whether violations of Leggett-Garg inequalities rule out nonlocal > realistic theories seems to be a matter of definition, the inequality is > violated in Bohmian mechanics which is often referred to as a nonlocal > realistic theory,* > Davi

Re: Is Many Worlds Falsifiable?

2023-09-06 Thread Jesse Mazer
Whether violations of Leggett-Garg inequalities rule out nonlocal realistic theories seems to be a matter of definition, the inequality is violated in Bohmian mechanics which is often referred to as a nonlocal realistic theory, see the discussion on p. 12 of https://arxiv.org/pdf/1412.6139.pdf -- a

Re: Is Many Worlds Falsifiable?

2023-09-06 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 7:40 AM Bruce Kellett wrote: "*Bell's inequality is established based on local realism."* >>> >>> *>>> False.* >>> >> >> >> I didn't say that, the science journal Nature said that. So now >> according to you not only is Wikipedia wrong but so is the science journ

Re: Is Many Worlds Falsifiable?

2023-09-06 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 9:12 PM John Clark wrote: > On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 12:38 AM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > > The violation of Bell's Inequality proves that things are not realistic >>> or not local or both, >>> >> >> *> I have said that and you denied it.* >> > > Show me where I denied that!!

Re: Is Many Worlds Falsifiable?

2023-09-06 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 12:38 AM Bruce Kellett wrote: The violation of Bell's Inequality proves that things are not realistic or >> not local or both, >> > > *> I have said that and you denied it.* > Show me where I denied that!! I had been saying that things are not realistic or not local or bo