Re: Leibniz on the unconscious

2012-08-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Aug 2012, at 20:53, meekerdb wrote: On 8/17/2012 10:30 AM, Roger wrote: Hi meekerdb In my view (perhaps not yours) things are as they are and move as they do for a reason, called sufficient reason. Science is the pursuit of sufficient reasons. I doubt that. I think science is

Re: Leibniz on the unconscious

2012-08-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-16, 12:35:53 Subject: Re: Leibniz on the unconscious On 16 Aug 2012, at 16:52, Roger wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal That's Cosmic Clockmaker argument. I don't think so. If I am machine, neither God, nor physical reality, nor consciousness, nor

Re: Re: Leibniz on the unconscious

2012-08-18 Thread Roger
the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-18, 06:55:33 Subject: Re: Leibniz on the unconscious On 17 Aug 2012, at 22:40, Roger wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal I apologize for my abruptness. Agreed, mathematics can have God-like powers. Nice. By blueprint

Re: Re: Leibniz on the unconscious

2012-08-17 Thread Roger
: Leibniz on the unconscious On 8/14/2012 10:42 AM, Roger wrote: Hi meekerdb Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function. And I'd say why can't everything just function by itself? If God is just a placeholder word for whatever it is that makes

Re: Leibniz on the unconscious

2012-08-17 Thread meekerdb
On 8/17/2012 10:30 AM, Roger wrote: Hi meekerdb In my view (perhaps not yours) things are as they are and move as they do for a reason, called sufficient reason. Science is the pursuit of sufficient reasons. I doubt that. I think science is about finding good explanations, and good means

Re: Re: Leibniz on the unconscious

2012-08-16 Thread Roger
everything could function. - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-15, 04:45:32 Subject: Re: Leibniz on the unconscious On 14 Aug 2012, at 20:28, meekerdb wrote: On 8/14/2012 10:42 AM, Roger wrote: Hi meekerdb Leibniz would say

Re: Leibniz on the unconscious

2012-08-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function. - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-15, 04:45:32 Subject: Re: Leibniz on the unconscious On 14 Aug 2012, at 20:28, meekerdb wrote: On 8/14/2012 10:42 AM, Roger

Re: Leibniz on the unconscious

2012-08-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
-list Time: 2012-08-11, 18:23:30 Subject: Re: Leibniz on the unconscious On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 5:14 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 8/11/2012 5:13 AM, Roger wrote: Hi meekerdb � Leibniz seems to be the first philosopher (and one of the few)爐o discuss the unconscious, which

Re: Leibniz on the unconscious

2012-08-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Aug 2012, at 20:28, meekerdb wrote: On 8/14/2012 10:42 AM, Roger wrote: Hi meekerdb Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function. And I'd say why can't everything just function by itself? If God is just a placeholder word for

Re: Re: Leibniz on the unconscious

2012-08-14 Thread Roger
), it is?n integral part of his metaphysical system.? ? In Leibniz's metaphysics, the lowest or bare naked monads (as in rocks)?re unconscious bodies. Leibniz ways that they are very drowsy or asleep. They lie in darkness. ? Animals can feel but not think. And your evidence for this is? Here

Re: Re: Leibniz on the unconscious

2012-08-14 Thread Roger
Hi meekerdb Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function. Roger , rclo...@verizon.net 8/14/2012 - Receiving the following content - From: meekerdb Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-11, 18:14:45 Subject: Re: Leibniz

Re: Leibniz on the unconscious

2012-08-14 Thread meekerdb
On 8/14/2012 10:42 AM, Roger wrote: Hi meekerdb Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function. And I'd say why can't everything just function by itself? If God is just a placeholder word for whatever it is that makes things work it doesn't add

Re: Leibniz on the unconscious

2012-08-11 Thread meekerdb
On 8/11/2012 5:13 AM, Roger wrote: Hi meekerdb Leibniz seems to be the first philosopher (and one of the few) to discuss the unconscious, which was necessary, since like God (or some Cosmic intelligence), it is an integral part of his metaphysical system. In Leibniz's metaphysics, the lowest or

Re: Leibniz on the unconscious

2012-08-11 Thread Jason Resch
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 5:14 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 8/11/2012 5:13 AM, Roger wrote: Hi meekerdb Leibniz seems to be the first philosopher (and one of the few) to discuss the unconscious, which was necessary, since like God (or some Cosmic intelligence), it is an