Re: adult vs. child AB

2009-02-11 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/2/11 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com: But the same could be said about everyday life. The person who wakes up in my bed tomorrow won't be me, he will be some guy who thinks he's me and shares my memories, personality traits, physical characteristics and so on. In other words,

Re: adult vs. child AB causation

2009-02-11 Thread Jack Mallah
--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: 2) If the data saved to the disk is only based on A1 (e.g. discarding any errors that A2 might have made) then one could say that A1 is the same person as B, while A2 is not. This is causal differentiation. Yes, but

Re: adult vs. child AB

2009-02-11 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 2009/2/11 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com: But the same could be said about everyday life. The person who wakes up in my bed tomorrow won't be me, he will be some guy who thinks he's me and shares my memories, personality traits, physical characteristics and

Re: adult vs. child AB

2009-02-11 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/2/12 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com: If continuity is fundamental then personal identity could be defined in terms of it and there could be a real difference between you and someone with the same memories, but without continuity to your past. But that could lead to absurd

Re: adult vs. child AB

2009-02-11 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 2009/2/12 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com: If continuity is fundamental then personal identity could be defined in terms of it and there could be a real difference between you and someone with the same memories, but without continuity to your past. But

Re: adult vs. child AB

2009-02-10 Thread Jack Mallah
--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/11 Jack Mallah jackmal...@yahoo.com: 2) If the data saved to the disk is only based on A1 (e.g. discarding any errors that A2 might have made) then one could say that A1 is the same person as B, while A2 is not.

Re: adult vs. child AB

2009-02-10 Thread russell standish
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 07:07:50PM -0800, Jack Mallah wrote: That actually doesn't matter - causation is defined in terms of counterfactuals. If - then, considering what happens at that moment of saving the data. If x=1 and y=1, and I copy the contents of x to z, that is not the same

Re: adult vs. child AB

2009-02-10 Thread Brent Meeker
Jack Mallah wrote: --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/11 Jack Mallah jackmal...@yahoo.com: 2) If the data saved to the disk is only based on A1 (e.g. discarding any errors that A2 might have made) then one could say that A1 is the same person as B,

Re: adult vs. child AB

2009-02-10 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/2/11 Jack Mallah jackmal...@yahoo.com: 3) If I am defined as an observer-moment, then I am part of either A1 or A2, not even the whole thing - just my current experience. This is the most conservative definition and thus may be the least misleading. This is the way I think of it,

Re: adult vs. child AB

2009-02-10 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 2009/2/11 Jack Mallah jackmal...@yahoo.com: 3) If I am defined as an observer-moment, then I am part of either A1 or A2, not even the whole thing - just my current experience. This is the most conservative definition and thus may be the least misleading. This