Re: regarding QM and infinite universes

2004-07-29 Thread John M
1-cylinder engine is not equivalent to an 16-cylinder one. (Can you drive a 16 cylinder Rolls to imitate (perfectly) the workings of a 1-cylinder boat-engine?) Cheers John Mikes - Original Message - From: "Stathis Papaioannou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:08 AM Subject: Re: regarding QM and infinite universes > John, > > I not sure whether we actually disagree about the human brain. Truncated

Re: regarding QM and infinite universes

2004-07-29 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
John, I not sure whether we actually disagree about the human brain. Of course we can't say that our 2004 understanding of science is the final word on physics, or neuroscience, or anything else! There is much that we do not understand about the workings of the brain, just as there is much that

Re: regarding QM and infinite universes

2004-07-28 Thread John M
Interleaving. "Stathis Papaioannou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Wednesday, July 28, 2004 1:56 AM: > John Mikes wrote on 28 July 2004: > > QUOTE-(SNIP) > -ENDQUOTE > I am not sure that I understand what you mean, or that you understood what I > meant. I don't claim to know exactly how the human bra

Re: regarding QM and infinite universes

2004-07-27 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
John Mikes wrote on 28 July 2004: QUOTE- You can call this consciousness thing mysterious, but we know it >results entirely from the electrochemical activity in these 10^10 little bags of salty water; start scooping out bits of brain, and you >will eventually end up scooping out the consciousness a

Re: regarding QM and infinite universes

2004-07-27 Thread Danny Mayes
Hal,     I understand what you are saying and it makes a lot of sense.  However, if you were to accept there are discrete units of time, space, and matter then the answer to the question "what number will you pick?" simply becomes the total number of possible interactions of these discrete uni

Re: regarding QM and infinite universes

2004-07-27 Thread "Hal Finney"
Danny Mayes writes: > First, regarding the idea of magical universes or quantum immortality > for that matter, doesn't this assume a truly infinite number of > universes? However, if you start with the idea that the reality we > experience is being created by a mechanical/computational process, >

Re: regarding QM and infinite universes

2004-07-27 Thread John M
clusively assigned to ONE alternate, the childish ancient belief system of supernatural agencies, saying: if that is 'not', then nothing is. I have no (better) explanation, just feel that such closed-mindedness is wrong. John Mikes - Original Message - From: "Stathis Papa

Re: regarding QM and infinite universes

2004-07-27 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Danny Mayes wrote: QUOTE- I think there are many things that never happen in even an infinite universe, for reasons that are hard to put into words, and certainly not expressable in terms of math. For instance, I do not believe there will ever exist, anywhere in the multiverse, a reality in whi

Re: regarding QM and infinite universes

2004-07-26 Thread Danny Mayes
So far, no-one has been able to tell me what happens to the probability of bizarre quantum events occurring as t->infinity in a finite, eternally expanding universe, which incidentally seems more likely than the Tipler scenario. Stathis Papaioannou I think there are many things that never happ

RE: regarding QM and infinite universes

2004-07-26 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Papaioannou From: Danny Mayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: regarding QM and infinite universes Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:54:33 -0400 I posted this today on the Fabric of Reality Yahoo Group, but would like to get responses to it over here as well. First, regard

regarding QM and infinite universes

2004-07-26 Thread Danny Mayes
I posted this today on the Fabric of Reality Yahoo Group, but would like to get responses to it over here as well. First, regarding the idea of magical universes or quantum immortality for that matter, doesn't this assume a truly infinite number of universes? However, if you start with the idea