Re: decision theory papers

2002-04-18 Thread Brent Meeker
Your approaches seem incoherent to me. If the universe is defined by a complete computable description then that description includes you and whatever decision process your brain implements. To treat the universe as computable and your choices as determined by some utility function and decision

Re: decision theory papers

2002-04-18 Thread Wei Dai
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 11:57:28AM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: Your approaches seem incoherent to me. If the universe is defined by a complete computable description then that description includes you and whatever decision process your brain implements. To treat the universe as computable and

Re: decision theory papers

2002-04-18 Thread Wei Dai
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 12:26:21PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: Perhaps contradictory is too strong a word - I should have stuck with incoherent. But it seems you contemplate having different wishes about the future evolution of the world and you want to find some decision theory that tells you

Re: decision theory papers

2002-04-18 Thread Brent Meeker
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Wei Dai wrote: On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 12:26:21PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: Perhaps contradictory is too strong a word - I should have stuck with incoherent. But it seems you contemplate having different wishes about the future evolution of the world and you want to

Re: decision theory papers

2002-04-18 Thread Wei Dai
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:39:59PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: Exactly. So what does the assumption about the complete mathematical description add? It's so that your preferences are well defined. As a positive theory, decision theory is going to be wrong sometimes (e.g. not predict what

Re: decision theory papers

2002-04-18 Thread Brent Meeker
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Wei Dai wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 08:36:29PM -0700, H J Ruhl wrote: I am interested because currently I find it impossible to support the concept of a decision. I was also having the problem of figuring out how to make sense of the concept of a decision. My

Re: decision theory papers

2002-04-18 Thread Wei Dai
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 02:08:56PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: Why are you in principle unable to compute your own choices? Do you refer to unable to predict or unable to enumerate or both? I mean there is no algorithm which your brain can implement, such that given the mathematical

Re: decision theory papers

2002-04-18 Thread Wei Dai
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 04:15:48PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: I don't see this. You seem to be making a proof by contradiction - but I don't see that it works. There is no contradiction is assuming that there is an algorithm that correctly predicts your decision and then you make that

Re: decision theory papers

2002-04-18 Thread Brent Meeker
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Wei Dai wrote: On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 04:15:48PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: I don't see this. You seem to be making a proof by contradiction - but I don't see that it works. There is no contradiction is assuming that there is an algorithm that correctly predicts

Re: Optimal Prediction

2002-04-18 Thread Wei Dai
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 04:15:32PM +0200, Juergen Schmidhuber wrote: For example, suppose the process computing the universe is not optimally efficient for some reason. As long as the resource postulate holds the true prior cannot dominate the Speed Prior, and S-based predictions will be