RE: Is the universe computable

2004-01-19 Thread Hal Finney
David Barrett-Lennard writes: Why is it assumed that a multiple runs makes any difference to the measure? One reason I like this assumption is that it provides a natural reason for simpler universes to have greater measure than more complex ones. Imagine a Turing machine with an infinite

RE: Is the universe computable

2004-01-19 Thread Kory Heath
At 1/18/04, Hal Finney wrote: Now consider all possible program tapes being run at the same time, perhaps on an infinite ensemble of (virtual? abstract?) machines. Of those, a fraction of 1 in 2^100 of those tapes will start with that 100 bit sequence for the program in question. [snip] Now

Papers of Lockwood, Albert-Loewer

2004-01-19 Thread Giu1i0 Pri5c0
I wish to read these 3 papers, which I have not found on the net in full text. Would anyone have them or know where they can be found? Thanks Albert, D and Loewer, B.: 1988, `Interpreting the Many Worlds Interpretation', Synthese, 77, 195-213 Lockwood, M. [1996a]: Many Minds Interpretations of

Re: Papers of Lockwood, Albert-Loewer

2004-01-19 Thread Wei Dai
The latter two papers can be found on JSTOR. I've placed copies at http://www.ibiblio.org/weidai/Many_Minds.pdf http://www.ibiblio.org/weidai/Many_Minds_Replies.pdf The first paper doesn't seem to be online anywhere. There's an online archive for Synthese at

Re: Is the universe computable

2004-01-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
At 17:36 16/01/04 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 02:28:27PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: of brain and the like. I of course respect completely that opinion; but I point on the fact that once you make the computationnalist hypothesis then it is the reverse which becomes

Re: Is the universe computable?

2004-01-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
At 15:05 16/01/04 +0100, Georges Quenot wrote: Possibly making you not better than them. But this not that simple. They do not disagree with dialog and argumentation. Rather they argue in different ways and/or with different premises. OK, so I perhaps did not understand you fully. I thought they

Re: Dualism

2004-01-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
At 15:38 16/01/04 -0500, Jesse Mazer wrote: Is Chalmers really a dualist? Although he does label his views this way at times, from his writings he does not seem to believe in matter per se, rather he thinks the fundamental stuff of reality is likely to be something like information which has

Re: How to u-n-s-u-b-s-c-r-i-b-e

2004-01-19 Thread Silvia Axinescu
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Re: How to u-n-s-u-b-s-c-r-i-b-e

2004-01-19 Thread Benjamin Udell
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Corrected: How to u-n-s-u-b-s-c-r-i-b-e

2004-01-19 Thread Benjamin Udell
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Re: Determinism - Mind and Brain

2004-01-19 Thread John M
Would a artificial self-aware entity emerging from human technology represent mind? (depends on YOUR definition of mind, of course) - but self-aware? does that mean that if the program calls for some math-churning, the computer will say I rather play some Bach music now and does so? or would

Re: Peculiarities of our universe

2004-01-19 Thread Saibal Mitra
- Original Message - From: Fred Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Everything [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 10:17 PM Subject: Re: Peculiarities of our universe One other scenario is that a civilization has indeed reached this pervasive state, but not in a form we'd

Re: Tegmark is too physics-centric

2004-01-19 Thread Saibal Mitra
I don't think there are many intelligent beings per cubic Plank length in our universe at all! In fact, string theorists don't know how to get to the standard model from their favorite theory, yet they still believe in it. Simple deterministic models could certainly explain our laws of physics, as

Re: Peculiarities of our universe

2004-01-19 Thread CMR
One other scenario is that a civilization has indeed reached this pervasive state, but not in a form we'd readily recognize. They may be nano-lifeforms or microorganisms, for example. This is probably harder to believe because only so much complexity can be stored in such an organism,

Re: Corrected: How to u-n-s-u-b-s-c-r-i-b-e

2004-01-19 Thread CMR
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Re: Is the universe computable

2004-01-19 Thread George Levy
I find it hard to believe that the measure of a program/book/movie/experience is proportional to the number it is executed/read/seen/lived, independently of everything else. I have an alternative proposition: Measure is a function of how accessible a particular program/book/movie/experience