RE: Natural Order Belief

2006-11-16 Thread Colin Geoffrey Hales
I'm curious: how many people on this list are theists? Stathis Papaioannou I don't believe in any theistic garbage. As a scientist the truth or otherwise of the proposition X = There is a god and he did this sits forever perched on the verge of disproof through lack of evidence in the most

Re: Natural Order Belief

2006-11-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 16-nov.-06, à 06:58, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : I'm curious: how many people on this list are theists? CF: A theist God (as opposed to a deist God) is one who intervenes in the natural order, i.e. does miracles. Stenger will readily admit that his argument does not apply to a

RE: Natural Order Belief

2006-11-16 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Bruno, I suspect you can talk about God in this way when the subject of atheism comes up because you live in post-Enlightenment Europe. But if you lived in a certain large English-speaking country where a substantial proportion of the population believe that God created Adam and Eve 6000

Re: Natural Order Belief

2006-11-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 16-nov.-06, à 13:59, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : Bruno, I suspect you can talk about God in this way when the subject of atheism comes up because you live in post-Enlightenment Europe. It is a difficult subject, perhaps a bit out of topics or premature, but I do not believe so

Re: Natural Order Belief

2006-11-16 Thread John M
Bruno: a beautiful position statement. Very sage and humane. Thanks John PS: unfortunately the overwhelming majority of humankind is within some kind of religious belief system and this makes a very lucrative political stock to crooks (oops: politicians, as contrasted to 'statesmen). Some

Re: Natural Order Belief

2006-11-16 Thread Brent Meeker
Bruno Marchal wrote: Le 16-nov.-06, à 13:59, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : Bruno, I suspect you can talk about God in this way when the subject of atheism comes up because you live in post-Enlightenment Europe. It is a difficult subject, perhaps a bit out of topics or premature,