Re: MGA revisited paper

2014-08-29 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:01:38AM +1200, LizR wrote: Yes, I am hoping for a gradual decline ... what does the DDA have to say about other sentient species? If, say, the Andromedans were going to colonise their entire galaxy, we'd almost certainly have been born one of them. Does it therefore

RE: AI Dooms Us

2014-08-29 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Paul King Are our fears of AI running amuck and killing random persons based on unfounded assumptions? Perhaps, and I see your point. However, am going to try to make the

Re: AI Dooms Us

2014-08-29 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Terren Suydam terren.suy...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Although my POV is aligned with the latter intuition, I actually agree with the former, but consider the kinds of threats involved to

Re: AI Dooms Us

2014-08-29 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: If humanity had been sane and had our act together globally, the sensible course of action would be to postpone development of superintelligence until we figured out how to do so safely. Sanity is not a

Re: Hal Finney

2014-08-29 Thread Kim Jones
On 29 Aug 2014, at 2:01 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: I just learned that Hal Finney has died. Hal was active on this list in its early days. For the last few years he has suffered from

Re: Hal Finney

2014-08-29 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: On 29 Aug 2014, at 2:01 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: I just learned that Hal Finney has died. Hal was active on this

Re: Hal Finney

2014-08-29 Thread LizR
I didn't know him, of course, even online, but I'm always sad to hear that someone has died. Every man's death diminishes me... On 29 August 2014 23:18, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: On 29 Aug

Re: Hal Finney

2014-08-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 29 Aug 2014, at 00:30, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: I just learned that Hal Finney has died. Hal was active on this list in its early days. For the last few years he has suffered from ALS. He will be missed. I am very sorry to hear this. RIP Hal, you will be missed indeed. Hal started

Re: AI Dooms Us

2014-08-29 Thread Terren Suydam
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Terren Suydam terren.suy...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Although my POV is aligned with the latter

Re: Hal Finney

2014-08-29 Thread meekerdb
I appreciated Hal's posting on the list. I wasn't aware he had died. In a sad coincidence I just learned that Vic Stenger died unexpectedly in Hawaii, Wednesday. He wasn't a participant on this list but some here know him from his books and his Avoid-L mailing list. Brent On 8/29/2014

Re: MGA revisited paper

2014-08-29 Thread John Mikes
Russell: in your note *Yes, it does. And that might explain the Fermi paradox. It doesn'trule vastly distributed hive minds, though. Perhaps our future is tobe assilimated with the Borg.* isn't there an *out * missing in the 2nd line after 'rule', or not? John M On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at

Re: MGA revisited paper

2014-08-29 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 04:25:28PM -0400, John Mikes wrote: Russell: in your note *Yes, it does. And that might explain the Fermi paradox. It doesn'trule vastly distributed hive minds, though. Perhaps our future is tobe assilimated with the Borg.* Yes indeed there should have been an

Re: MGA revisited paper

2014-08-29 Thread LizR
On 29 August 2014 18:17, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:01:38AM +1200, LizR wrote: Yes, I am hoping for a gradual decline ... what does the DDA have to say about other sentient species? If, say, the Andromedans were going to colonise their entire

Re: MGA revisited paper

2014-08-29 Thread LizR
Actually I'm surprised that there are *no* populous universes anywhere in the string landscape / level 4 multiverse (if such exist). Or perhaps it's more likely that there are, but their proportion is so much lower than our sort that the chances are still better to find oneself in a universe where

Re: MGA revisited paper

2014-08-29 Thread LizR
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So What's A Brain For, Then?

2014-08-29 Thread Kim Jones
www.wired.com/2014/08/this-elderly-gentleman-was-born-with-his-brain-hemispheres-disconnected-how-did-it-affect-him-barely-at-all?mbid=social_twitter Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: