Re: Superdeterminism in comics

2019-11-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 10 Nov 2019, at 22:24, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:22 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > On 7 Nov 2019, at 22:58, Bruce Kellett > wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 8:53 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>

Re: Superdeterminism in comics

2019-11-11 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 10:58 PM Philip Thrift wrote: > On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 5:45:45 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >> >> >> Evolution has precisely nothing to do with it. The preferred basis is >> determined by quantum Darwinism acting on the normal physical interactions >> between quantum

Re: C60 Interference

2019-11-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 10 Nov 2019, at 20:01, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> On 8 Nov 2019, at 01:13, Alan Grayson > >> wrote: >> >> On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 12:50:21 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> On 11/7/2019 6:21 AM, Bruno

Propositions as Types: Some Missing Links

2019-11-11 Thread Philip Thrift
via https://twitter.com/ko_bx/status/1193828537188401153 I’ve recently started studying Topology, which turned out to be a topic filled with set theory and theorems around it. Unfortunately, my brain was well-poisoned with Type Theory by the time I’ve started, so I couldn’t help but itch my

Re: Superdeterminism in comics

2019-11-11 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:18 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 10 Nov 2019, at 22:24, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:22 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 7 Nov 2019, at 22:58, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 8:53 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < >>

Re: Superdeterminism in comics

2019-11-11 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 6:03:36 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 10:58 PM Philip Thrift > wrote: > >> On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 5:45:45 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> >>> Evolution has precisely nothing to do with it. The preferred basis is >>> determined by

Re: Infinitesimals

2019-11-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 10 Nov 2019, at 20:09, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 6:17:10 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 9 Nov 2019, at 02:22, Lawrence Crowell > > wrote: >> >> We can think of infinitesimals as a manifestation of Gödel's theorem with >> Peano number theory.

Re: C60 Interference

2019-11-11 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:37 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 10 Nov 2019, at 20:01, Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Once the cat is alive + dead, he remains in that state for ever. >> > > *Then how come we NEVER observe that

Re: Superdeterminism in comics

2019-11-11 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 3:18:48 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 10 Nov 2019, at 22:24, Bruce Kellett > > wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:22 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > >> On 7 Nov 2019, at 22:58, Bruce Kellett > >> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 8:53 AM 'Brent

Re: Superdeterminism in comics

2019-11-11 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 5:45:45 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:18 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > >> On 10 Nov 2019, at 22:24, Bruce Kellett > >> wrote: >> >> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:22 PM Bruno Marchal > > wrote: >> >>> On 7 Nov 2019, at 22:58, Bruce Kellett >

Re: Infinitesimals

2019-11-11 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 3:28:05 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > Personally, despite I am logician, I don’t really believe in non standard > analysis. I find the Cauchy sequences more useful, and directly > understandable (the “new” infinitesimal requires an appendix in either >

Re: Superdeterminism in comics

2019-11-11 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 4:18 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > *when I am duplicated in Washington and Moscow, I don’t feel personally > to be in both cities at once.* Then what one and only one city do "you" personally feel to be in? If you can not clearly answer that question, and the history of

Re: C60 Interference

2019-11-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:37 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > >> On 10 Nov 2019, at 20:01, Alan Grayson > >> wrote: >> > > >> On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> Once the cat is alive +

Re: C60 Interference

2019-11-11 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 3:44:24 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:37 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 10 Nov 2019, at 20:01, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >> >> >>> On Sunday, November 10,

Re: C60 Interference

2019-11-11 Thread smitra
On 11-11-2019 22:44, Alan Grayson wrote: On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:37 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Nov 2019, at 20:01, Alan Grayson wrote: On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: Once the cat

Re: C60 Interference

2019-11-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 3:40:04 PM UTC-7, smitra wrote: > > On 11-11-2019 22:44, Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:37 PM Bruno Marchal > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On 10 Nov 2019, at 20:01, Alan

Re: Panpsychism, materialism, and zombies

2019-11-11 Thread Eva
I think @Bruno is right - consciousness is not matter. It looks that consciousness is kinda abstract - certain kind of patterns of neuronal activation is what's necessary for consciousness. Without that, brain is not conscious. Maybe matter (particles) itself are indywiduated only by relations.

Re: C60 Interference

2019-11-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 2:52:25 PM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 3:44:24 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:37 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: >>>

Re: Infinitesimals

2019-11-11 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 3:28:05 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 10 Nov 2019, at 20:09, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 6:17:10 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 9 Nov 2019, at 02:22, Lawrence Crowell >> wrote: >> >> We can think of

Hydrogen to Helium fusion in the VERY early universe.

2019-11-11 Thread Alan Grayson
I'm watching a science channel about the BB. It's claimed that in the VERY early universe, a few seconds after the BB, it was so HOT that Hydrogen was fusing into Helium. BUT ... I thought Hydrogen didn't form until around 380,000 years AFTER the BB, when the CMBR formed. What's going on? TIA,

Re: Hydrogen to Helium fusion in the VERY early universe.

2019-11-11 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
It's talking about protons (hydogen */nuclei/*) and neutrons fusing into alpha particles (helium */nuclei/*). The CMBR was emitted much later when it was cool enough for nuclei to capture electrons and become hydrogen and helium /*atoms*/. Brent On 11/11/2019 6:36 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: I'm