I don't think I received the first of my two messages written today on
Wolfram, but it made it to the archive. In case anyone missed it I'll
just point to it rather than re-sending. It's available at
http://www.escribe.com/science/theory/m4156.html.
Hal Finney
Hal Finney wrote:
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> My one concern is that if Wolfram is right and our universe is a random
> program from some set, and if there are much more than on the order
> of 100 bits in the program, we will never be able to find the right
> program. If the nature of the program space is similar to wha
One more point with regard to Wolfram and our list's theme. I think
that implicit in his conception of the underlying rules of the universe
you have to assume some kind of all-universe model. The reason is that
he does not expect our universe's program to be particularly special
or unique. He th
I think there are a couple of things about Wolfram's book which aren't
well understood.
Most importantly, he is not specifically commited to cellular automata.
He does focus on them, especially 1-dimensional, 2-state CAs, as a
particularly simple model of computation, which also has the property
t
John,
I can't remember whether you read my paper "On Complexity and
Emergence" in Complexity International a couple of years
ago. Basically, I think you are well on the mark, except I disagree
with you on the issue that once a mechanism is known, the process is
no longer emergent. I think i
Colin Hales wrote:
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> Hi Folks,
>
> I have chewed this thread with great interest.
>
> Our main gripe is the issue of emergent behaviour and the mathematical
> treatment thereof? Yes? This is the area in which Wolfram claims to have
> made progress. (I am still wading my way through his tome).
The correspondent with that mystical name touched an interesting problem
(earlier appearing in Hale's and Tim's posts): emergence.
Colin Hales:
> Our main gripe is the issue of emergent behaviour and the >mathematical
treatment thereof? Yes?<
(Tim's post see below).
I have an indecent opinion of t
hi all. in a recent msg I talked about emergence as
a theme for the algorithmic revolution & CH zooms in & comments on that,
spurring some more of my thoughts.
this is a very tricky idea that I feel I definitely have not wrapped
my own brain around, nor has anyone else. but, imho, its a genuinely
My caveat before commenting: I'm an opinionated person, but I really
don't have any particular theory of everything to share with you. No
dreams theory, no soap bubble theory, no 18-dimensional cellular
automaton theory. I'm currently doing a lot of reading in logic, topos
theory, quantum mecha
Hi Folks,
I have chewed this thread with great interest.
Our main gripe is the issue of emergent behaviour and the mathematical
treatment thereof? Yes? This is the area in which Wolfram claims to have
made progress. (I am still wading my way through his tome).
***Isnt the 'algorithmic revolutio
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