Who believe in Concepts ? (Was: An All/Nothing multiverse model)

2004-11-14 Thread Georges Quenot
Hal Ruhl wrote: I would appreciate comments on the following. I placed the definitions at the end for easy group reference. Proposal: The Existence of our and other universes and their dynamics are the result of unavoidable definition and logical incompleteness. Justification: 1) Given

Re: An All/Nothing multiverse model

2004-11-14 Thread Georges Quenot
Hal Ruhl wrote: 4) A Something: A division of the All into two subparts. That too, sounds bad to me. It might well be that the only something that deserve the title of Something would be the All itself. Everything else might appear so only in our minds (and/or in other types of minds). Georges.

Re: Who believe in Concepts ? (Was: An All/Nothing multiverse model)

2004-11-14 Thread Hal Ruhl
At 07:56 AM 11/14/2004, you wrote: Hal Ruhl wrote: I would appreciate comments on the following. I placed the definitions at the end for easy group reference. Proposal: The Existence of our and other universes and their dynamics are the result of unavoidable definition and logical

Re: An All/Nothing multiverse model

2004-11-14 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Georges: At 08:16 AM 11/14/2004, you wrote: Hal Ruhl wrote: 4) A Something: A division of the All into two subparts. That too, sounds bad to me. It might well be that the only something that deserve the title of Something would be the All itself. Everything else might appear so only in our

Re: An All/Nothing multiverse model

2004-11-14 Thread Pete Carlton
I am not quite sure how justification (5) is meant to hang on this structure. Where does the idea of asking questions come from? Why is the Nothing supposed to be the kind of thing that should asked questions in the first place? Why is the fact that Nothing can't answer a question any more

Re: An All/Nothing multiverse model

2004-11-14 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Pete: At 04:50 PM 11/14/2004, you wrote: I am not quite sure how justification (5) is meant to hang on this structure. Where does the idea of asking questions come from? Why is the Nothing supposed to be the kind of thing that should asked questions in the first place? Why is the fact

Re: An All/Nothing multiverse model

2004-11-14 Thread Hal Ruhl
The Nothing in my system is no longer a Nothing once it breaches the Everything boundary so it can thereafter be active. It is immediately replaced by a new Nothing. The language we are using does not allow me to discuss these ideas without introducing a hint of a thing called time which I do