Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-26 Thread marc . geddes
Danny, The depressed people are the sane ones. My post is merely 'existential angst' caused by knowledge of the world and myself as I really am.With knowledge comes unhappiness and happiness is the happiness of ignorance. Ever read the short story of 'Green Magic'? That story is available

Re: What are the consequences of UD+ASSA?

2007-10-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 25-oct.-07, à 18:22, Tom Caylor a écrit : How about SAI (Super Intelligence)? Or God? Seriously, of course. The problem with generic SAI is the one you brought up: how do you know the SAI is good? This problem does not exist with a good God. Also the problem of what is the arrow, how

Re: Wolfram 2,3 Turing Machine

2007-10-26 Thread Juergen Schmidhuber
Impressive result by Alex Smith! Funny though how Wolfram's web sites on this print Wolfram's name in larger font and more frequently than Smith's, even trying to sell this as New Kind Of Science although it's just a continuation of a decades-old search for small universal Turing machines :-)

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-26 Thread David Nyman
On Oct 26, 8:30 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever read the short story of 'Green Magic'? No I hadn't, but thanks for the link, marc - it's a neat little tale, delightfully told. I'm tempted to try a little more of Jack Vance after this - any suggestions? David On Oct 26, 8:30 am, [EMAIL

Re: What are the consequences of UD+ASSA?

2007-10-26 Thread Brent Meeker
Bruno Marchal wrote: ... Is God good? Well, according to Plato, accepting the rather natural theological interpretation of the Parmenides (like Plotinus), there is a sense to say that God is good, but probably not in the Christian sense (if that can be made precise). Indeed, Plato's God

Re: What are the consequences of UD+ASSA?

2007-10-26 Thread Wei Dai
Rolf Nelson wrote: In standard decision theory, odds (subjective probabilities) are separated from utilities. Is how much you care about the consequences of your actions isomorphic to odds, or is there some subtlety I'm missing here? Your question shows that someone finally understand what

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-26 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 07:30:30AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danny, The depressed people are the sane ones. My post is merely 'existential angst' caused by knowledge of the world and myself as I really am.With knowledge comes unhappiness and happiness is the happiness of