RE: Climate models

2014-04-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 4:21 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Climate models On 2 April 2014 12:10, Chris de Morsella wrote: Why has LFTR development essential

Re: Max and FPI

2014-04-01 Thread meekerdb
On 4/1/2014 7:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: BTW, are you OK in the math thread? Are you OK, like Liz apparently, that the Kripke frame (W,R) respects A -> []<>A iff R is symmetrical? Should I give the proof of the fact that the Kripke frame (W,R) respects []A -> [][]A iff R is a transitive? Br

Re: Max and FPI

2014-04-01 Thread Richard Ruquist
Apparently my conception of Gleason's Theorem is incorrect. However, I was struck by something the author of the answer, Mitchell Porter, said that is exactly what I thought the Gleason Theorem was about: "In my opinion, the sensible interpretation of a nonuniform measure in a multiverse theory (in

Re: Max and FPI

2014-04-01 Thread LizR
Eek! Am I a mystical many-worlder (on days that don't have a "T" in them) ? Thank you that was very interesting, although I still don't know what to make of quantum theory (that's good, right?) By the way I've seen "Kirk on a rock" before somewhere, maybe it was in a parallel universe... On 2

Re: Climate models

2014-04-01 Thread meekerdb
On 4/1/2014 6:43 PM, LizR wrote: On 2 April 2014 14:13, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: On 4/1/2014 4:20 PM, LizR wrote: On 2 April 2014 12:10, Chris de Morsella mailto:cdemorse...@yahoo.com>> wrote: Why has LFTR development essentially stopped for forty years?

Re: Max and FPI

2014-04-01 Thread meekerdb
On 4/1/2014 2:25 PM, LizR wrote: I just read the definition of Gleason's theorem on Wikipedia and now my brain is full. A "for-dummies" version would be appreciated... I think what Gleason proved is that the only consistent probability measure on a Hilbert space is given by the normalized inne

Re: Climate models

2014-04-01 Thread LizR
On 2 April 2014 14:13, meekerdb wrote: > On 4/1/2014 4:20 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 2 April 2014 12:10, Chris de Morsella wrote: > >> >> Why has LFTR development essentially stopped for forty years? >> >>Apparently they can't be used to make bombs. > > > That was part of the reason.

Re: Climate models

2014-04-01 Thread meekerdb
On 4/1/2014 4:20 PM, LizR wrote: On 2 April 2014 12:10, Chris de Morsella > wrote: Why has LFTR development essentially stopped for forty years? Apparently they can't be used to make bombs. That was part of the reason. But the story is that when Hyman Ricko

Re: Climate models

2014-04-01 Thread LizR
On 2 April 2014 12:10, Chris de Morsella wrote: > > Why has LFTR development essentially stopped for forty years? > > Apparently they can't be used to make bombs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this grou

Re: Climate models

2014-04-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
> There is something around fifty million tons of pure gold dissolved in the > world’s oceans >>That's nice but Uranium is far far more common than Gold and  Thorium is much >>more common than Uranium, in fact it's almost twice as common as Tin. And Thorium is easier to extract from its ore

Re: Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread LizR
On 2 April 2014 10:46, Telmo Menezes wrote: > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:03 PM, LizR wrote: > >> "Chateau Mots-Vivants" and the mention of the Necronomicon did it for me. >> > > First punk rock, now Lovecraft... I guess we grew up on the same stuff. > > Throw in "Doctor Who" and the entire scienc

Re: Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:03 PM, LizR wrote: > "Chateau Mots-Vivants" and the mention of the Necronomicon did it for me. > First punk rock, now Lovecraft... I guess we grew up on the same stuff. > > > On 2 April 2014 08:24, Kim Jones wrote: > >> I started to crack up when they wrote "If that

Re: Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread meekerdb
On 4/1/2014 2:09 PM, LizR wrote: Mind you I'm just a /little/ disappointed they didn't reference "Night on Mispec Moor" which is surely where the idea came from originally*. http://www.sffaudio.com/?p=744 PS The trouble with April Fools is that by the time the rest of the world gets around to

Re: Max and FPI

2014-04-01 Thread LizR
I just read the definition of Gleason's theorem on Wikipedia and now my brain is full. A "for-dummies" version would be appreciated... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fr

Re: Climate models

2014-04-01 Thread LizR
On 2 April 2014 06:31, John Clark wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:38 PM, LizR wrote: > > > Yeah I like thorium too. I realise it isn't the universal panacea but >> seems like a good bet if handled carefully. >> > > It's a bit off topic but all my life I've heard people say X is NOT a > panace

Re: Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread LizR
Mind you I'm just a *little* disappointed they didn't reference "Night on Mispec Moor" which is surely where the idea came from originally*. http://www.sffaudio.com/?p=744 PS The trouble with April Fools is that by the time the rest of the world gets around to them, they've been done, dusted and f

Re: Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread LizR
"Chateau Mots-Vivants" and the mention of the Necronomicon did it for me. On 2 April 2014 08:24, Kim Jones wrote: > I started to crack up when they wrote "If that doesn't scare the bejeezus > out of you then you may need to check your pulse." > > > Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL > > Email: kimjo...@o

Re: Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread LizR
I meant "Morts" On 2 April 2014 10:03, LizR wrote: > "Chateau Mots-Vivants" and the mention of the Necronomicon did it for me. > > > On 2 April 2014 08:24, Kim Jones wrote: > >> I started to crack up when they wrote "If that doesn't scare the bejeezus >> out of you then you may need to check y

Re: Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread Kim Jones
Appeared on April 1 Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com "Never let your schooling get in the way of your education" - Mark Twain > On 2 Apr 2014, at 6:24

Re: My model re Comp and Life re the Everything

2014-04-01 Thread John Mikes
Dear Hal, you wrote as IMO the 'fundamental' statement: *1) Assumption # A1: There exists a set consisting of all possible divisors. Call this set "A". * *"A" encompasses every distinction.* Possible as per what? our present inventory of knowledge, or including what we would deem impossible t

Re: Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread Kim Jones
I started to crack up when they wrote "If that doesn't scare the bejeezus out of you then you may need to check your pulse." Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.c

Re: Climate models

2014-04-01 Thread spudboy100
People are too afraid of nuclear power, to even consider thorium232-->uranium233. I don't think the market is there for fission anymore. It was too slow in adapting better safety measures, waste disposal, reactor configuration, and even marketing. Stolid engineers can do the job but not if they

Re: Climate models

2014-04-01 Thread meekerdb
On 4/1/2014 10:56 AM, John Clark wrote: > Most of the Thorium in the earth's crust is not recoverable And yet you speak of it as if it were. Why John? Isn't that dishonest. High quality ore that can approach 50% Thorium and if at random you picked one cubic meter of rock anywher

Re: Climate models

2014-04-01 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:50 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: > > > > > *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto: > everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *John Clark > *Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2014 8:48 AM > > *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Climate models >

Re: Climate models

2014-04-01 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:38 PM, LizR wrote: > Yeah I like thorium too. I realise it isn't the universal panacea but > seems like a good bet if handled carefully. > It's a bit off topic but all my life I've heard people say X is NOT a panacea but never once heard anyone say Y IS a panacea. For s

Re: Max and FPI

2014-04-01 Thread Richard Ruquist
Bruno, I have a problem with the Gleason Theorem because it appears to me to be saying that every possible quantum state is realized with equal probability at first, but the frequency at which each universe reoccurs is given by the FPI probabilities that are measured in controlled quantum experimen

Re: Max and FPI

2014-04-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 Apr 2014, at 03:33, meekerdb wrote: On 3/31/2014 6:00 PM, LizR wrote: On 1 April 2014 06:04, meekerdb wrote: The price is not having a unified 'self' - which many people would consider a big price since all observation and record keeping which is used to empirically test theories as

Re: My model re Comp and Life re the Everything

2014-04-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Hal, On 01 Apr 2014, at 01:48, Hal Ruhl wrote: Hi Bruno: Reintroducing some mathematical terms to my model: A distinction is a description of a boundary between two things see definition "i". As a description it is a number - I suppose [a positive integer ?]. Do you mean the cod

Re: Max and FPI

2014-04-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 31 Mar 2014, at 20:14, meekerdb wrote: On 3/31/2014 10:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 31 Mar 2014, at 19:04, meekerdb wrote: On 3/31/2014 12:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: OK...you see an elegant explanation sBould the empirically observed fact actually not be. But would even that alo

Re: Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread Telmo Menezes
I think we have a strong contender for an ig nobel award here! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Kim Jones wrote: > http://arxiv.org/abs/1403.8146 > > > Enjoy. I sure did. I think... > > > > > Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL > > Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au > kmjco...@icloud.com > Mobile:

Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread Kim Jones
http://arxiv.org/abs/1403.8146 Enjoy. I sure did. I think... Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com "Never let your schooling get in the way of your educat

Re: My model re Comp and Life re the Everything

2014-04-01 Thread ghibbsa
On Monday, March 31, 2014 12:21:29 AM UTC+1, Hal Ruhl wrote: > > Hi everyone: > > I am currently interested in two questions: > > Does my model of why there are dynamic universes within the Everything > [latest version is below] include Bruno's Comp? Hi Bruno. > > If life is inherently sel