Re: A (somewhat) different angle on the reversal

2015-06-13 Thread meekerdb
On 6/13/2015 9:18 PM, LizR wrote: None of this explain why it works so well anyway. I don't understand why the effectiveness of mathematics is considered problematic. First, we, creatures who evolved in this world, invented it to be useful. We invented counting and arithmetic to be used in d

Re: Quran Audio

2015-06-13 Thread LizR
On 14 June 2015 at 02:38, John Clark wrote: > > What the hell?! If Allah had an ounce of moral character He should be > asking for our forgiveness and stop demanding that we thank and love our > torturer. > Well said. Religion appears to be Stockholm syndrome writ large. -- You received this

Re: A (somewhat) different angle on the reversal

2015-06-13 Thread LizR
None of this explain why it works so well anyway. On 14 June 2015 at 07:42, John Mikes wrote: > Brent concluded: > > *2+2=4. Then we discovered that these rules implied a lot of things we > hadn't thought of. But they aren't "out there", they're in our language.* > > > This is 'MY' agnosticism

Re: Recent methane spikes in the arctic

2015-06-13 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=p2ckkxEnWpA I might have been a little more impressed with Paul Beckwith's presentation if when he was showing charts of methane con

Re: A (somewhat) different angle on the reversal

2015-06-13 Thread John Mikes
Brent concluded: *2+2=4. Then we discovered that these rules implied a lot of things we hadn't thought of. But they aren't "out there", they're in our language.* This is 'MY' agnosticism talking: why do you think all the novelties are in our language, not "out there"? Our mind (whatever it may

Re: Quran Audio

2015-06-13 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 Samiya Illias wrote: > > I do not understand why those who have decided and declared themselves > as atheists even bother to respond to my posts. > Since you admit you don't understand I will inform you: it's because people who peddle religious "ideas" have caused more mise

Re: Quran Audio

2015-06-13 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
What is inaccurate? More importantly, what is popularly believed and acted upon by the Uma, by, the Judges making Fatwas? Taquiyya, for the Qfar, won't help matters. It is ultimately how people behave, no matter what Quran, or Soonah, or Bukhari instructs. Beyond this, if God is logical, and I a