R: Re: Re: Aaronson/Penrose

2016-09-04 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
Messaggio originale Da: agrayson2...@gmail.com Data: 05/09/2016 0.52 A: "Everything List" Cc: Ogg: Re: Re: Aaronson/Penrose On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 3:11:49 PM UTC-6, scerir wrote: Messaggio originale

Re: Re: Aaronson/Penrose

2016-09-04 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 3:11:49 PM UTC-6, scerir wrote: > > > > Messaggio originale > Da: "Alan Grayson" > Data: 30/08/2016 18.23 > A: "Everything List" > Ogg: Re: Aaronson/Penrose > > Here's an article of interest. FWIW, I

R: Re: Aaronson/Penrose

2016-09-04 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
Messaggio originale Da: "Alan Grayson" Data: 30/08/2016 18.23 A: "Everything List" Ogg: Re: Aaronson/Penrose Here's an article of interest. FWIW, I don't believe the no-signalling theorem puts this issue to rest.

Re: Aaronson/Penrose

2016-09-04 Thread agrayson2000
Bruno, thank you for a detailed response. Most of it is above my pay grade, but I will check some of your links and see what I can make of them. As for the MWI, I have a simple approach. If I went to LV and played a slot machine for a single trial or outcome, and someone asked me what happened

Re: What it Means to Live in a Virtual World Generated by Our Brain

2016-09-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Sep 2016, at 09:20, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Am 29.08.2016 um 15:02 schrieb Bruno Marchal: ... Irrealism on the other hand states the the external world is a part of the virtual world. I guess that Bruno's theory is close to irrealism. Except it is not a theory, but a theorem (in

Re: Aaronson/Penrose

2016-09-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Sep 2016, at 21:02, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 11:52:55 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 11:27 AM, wrote: On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 11:07:09 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 31 Aug 2016, at

Re: What it Means to Live in a Virtual World Generated by Our Brain

2016-09-04 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
Am 29.08.2016 um 15:02 schrieb Bruno Marchal: ... Irrealism on the other hand states the the external world is a part of the virtual world. I guess that Bruno's theory is close to irrealism. Except it is not a theory, but a theorem (in the mechanist theory, which of course is not mine).