Re: Entanglement

On 4/19/2018 9:45 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: *Brent Meeker* On 4/19/2018 9:10 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 1:18:32 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: Those are not generalized basis vectors: they are eigenfunctions of the

Re: Entanglement

From: *Brent Meeker* mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> On 4/19/2018 9:10 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 1:18:32 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: Those are not generalized basis vectors: they are eigenfunctions of the spin projection

Re: Entanglement

On 4/19/2018 9:10 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 1:18:32 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: From: *Bruno Marchal* > On 18 Apr 2018, at 15:45, Bruce Kellett > wrote: From: *Bruno Marchal* > On 17 Apr 2018, at 13:52, Bruce Kellett > wrote But not

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 2:54:37 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/19/2018 7:28 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 2:13:20 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/19/2018 6:39 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 12:44:04 AM

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 1:18:32 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > From: Bruno Marchal > > > On 18 Apr 2018, at 15:45, Bruce Kellett < > bhke...@optusnet.com.au > wrote: > > From: Bruno Marchal > > > On 17 Apr 2018, at 13:52, Bruce Kellett < > bhke...@optusnet.com.au > wrote > > > But note particula

Re: Entanglement

On 4/19/2018 7:28 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 2:13:20 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/19/2018 6:39 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 12:44:04 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/19/2018 5:29 PM, smitra wrote: > One

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 2:13:20 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/19/2018 6:39 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 12:44:04 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/19/2018 5:29 PM, smitra wrote: >> > One can a priori rule out any non-local effects using the f

Re: Entanglement

On 4/19/2018 6:39 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 12:44:04 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/19/2018 5:29 PM, smitra wrote: > One can a priori rule out any non-local effects using the fact that > the dynamics as described by the Schrödinger equation is lo

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 12:44:04 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/19/2018 5:29 PM, smitra wrote: > > One can a priori rule out any non-local effects using the fact that > > the dynamics as described by the Schrödinger equation is local. So, in > > any theory where there is no collapse an

Re: Entanglement

From: *Bruno Marchal* mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 15:45, Bruce Kellett > wrote: From: *Bruno Marchal* mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 13:52, Bruce Kellett > wrote But note particularly that the

Re: Entanglement

From: *smitra* mailto:smi...@zonnet.nl>> One can a priori rule out any non-local effects using the fact that the dynamics as described by the Schrödinger equation is local. That is false. The dynamics in the Schrödinger equation are given by the Hamiltonian. And there is absolutely no reason

Re: Entanglement

On 4/19/2018 5:29 PM, smitra wrote: One can a priori rule out any non-local effects using the fact that the dynamics as described by the Schrödinger equation is local. So, in any theory where there is no collapse and everything follows from only the Schrödinger equation, there cannot be non-l

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 12:30:00 AM UTC, smitra wrote: > > On 20-04-2018 01:38, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 10:11:38 PM UTC, smitra wrote: > > > >> On 19-04-2018 22:52, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 2:42:37 PM UTC, Brun

Re: Entanglement

On 20-04-2018 01:38, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 10:11:38 PM UTC, smitra wrote: On 19-04-2018 22:52, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 2:42:37 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 18 Apr 2018, at 15:45, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: BRU

Re: Entanglement

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 10:11:38 PM UTC, smitra wrote: > > On 19-04-2018 22:52, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 2:42:37 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > >> On 18 Apr 2018, at 15:45, Bruce Kellett > >> wrote: > >> > >> From: BRUNO MARCHAL > >> > >>

Re: Entanglement

From: *Bruno Marchal* mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 15:11, Bruce Kellett > wrote: From: *Bruno Marchal* mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 00:58, Bruce Kellett > wrote: From: *Brent Meeker*

Re: What is a Löbian machine/number/combinator

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 07:11:33PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > Somewhere: (and I copy my answer, as some people asked me this in this list > too). > > > > > > What are Lobian numbers? Can you give a reference? I know little bit about > > Godel’s work. > > > Consider any Turing universal ma

Re: Entanglement

On 19-04-2018 22:52, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 2:42:37 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 18 Apr 2018, at 15:45, Bruce Kellett wrote: From: BRUNO MARCHAL On 17 Apr 2018, at 13:52, Bruce Kellett wrote But note particularly that the spin measurement is made i

Re: Entanglement

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 2:42:37 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 18 Apr 2018, at 15:45, Bruce Kellett > wrote: > > From: Bruno Marchal > > > On 17 Apr 2018, at 13:52, Bruce Kellett < > bhke...@optusnet.com.au > wrote > > > But note particularly that the spin measurement is made in t

Re: Mind Uploading

On 4/18/2018 11:50 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On 19 April 2018 at 06:22, Brent Meeker wrote: On 4/18/2018 8:51 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On 18 April 2018 at 23:57, Brent Meeker wrote: theology. It just means “theory of everything’” for the greeks, No it doesn't. First, "theory" has a di

Re: Mind Uploading

> On 19 Apr 2018, at 08:50, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > On 19 April 2018 at 06:22, Brent Meeker wrote: >> >> >> On 4/18/2018 8:51 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> >>> On 18 April 2018 at 23:57, Brent Meeker wrote: theology. It just means “theory of everything’” for the greek

Re: Mind Uploading

> On 18 Apr 2018, at 19:30, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 5:12 AM, Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > ​>> ​Ad hominem my ass! Bruno > > ​> ​Try to be polite please. > > Try not using ridiculously pompous phrases like "Ad hominem" and even more > important

Re: Entanglement

> On 18 Apr 2018, at 15:45, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > From: Bruno Marchal mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> >>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 13:52, Bruce Kellett < >>> bhkell...@optusnet.com.au >>> > wrote >> >>> But note particularly that the

Re: Entanglement

> On 18 Apr 2018, at 15:11, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > From: Bruno Marchal mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> >>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 00:58, Bruce Kellett < >>> bhkell...@optusnet.com.au >>> > wrote: >>> >>> From: Brent Meeker mailto:me

Re: What is a Löbian machine/number/combinator

> On 19 Apr 2018, at 02:57, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > I will try to get back to this with comments, but right now I am too tired > out. OK. You need to rest, we have all time, Bruno > > LC > > On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 12:11:35 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > Somewhere: (and