Re: Quantum Theory from Quantum Gravity

2004-12-03 Thread Doriano Brogioli
As many other theories about quantum mechanics, also this one is based
on Nelson's idea of quantum mechanical effects in classical mechanics.
Unfortunately, Nelson's idea cannot explain all the quantum mechanical
effects observed in nature. In order to apply Nelson's approach, we need
that the velocity field is v=dS(x,t)/dx. This condition means that all
the interference effects cannot be explained by Nelson's idea. By the
way, it's worth noting that all the non-local effects of quantum
mechanics are basically interference phenomena, so Nelson's idea
reproduces only a lesser quantum mechanics, that is local.
The same problem holds for this new paper.
A polemic consideration. If one understood the so called many worlds
interpretation, that is the Everett interpretation of quantum
mechanics, he should be able to understand that the lesser quantum
mechanics describes only a single world. The two ideas, or
interpretations, cannot hold together!
Finally, it's time to note that many explanation of quantum mechanics in
terms of statistical dynamics have been proposed, but none of them have
been able to explain any experiment about quantum mechanics. Many people
(including G. Parisi, for example) proposed a similarity between quantum
field theory and classical statistical mechanics, but there's alwais a
factor i that is wrong. There's a huge difference between diffusion
equation and Schroedinger equation, though they differ only by a factor
i. I'm a supporter of many worlds theories, and I think that there are
many experimental evidences of the real existence of different wave
packets in interference experiments. This is in contrast with the
lesser quantum mechanics, where interference is not possible.
Best regards,
Doriano Brogioli

Saibal Mitra wrote:
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0311059
 
 
*Authors:* Fotini Markopoulou 
http://arxiv.org/find/gr-qc/1/au:+Markopoulou_F/0/1/0/all/0/1, Lee 
Smolin http://arxiv.org/find/gr-qc/1/au:+Smolin_L/0/1/0/all/0/1

We provide a mechanism by which, from a background independent model
with no quantum mechanics, quantum theory arises in the same limit
in which spatial properties appear. Starting with an arbitrary
abstract graph as the microscopic model of spacetime, our ansatz is
that the microscopic dynamics can be chosen so that 1) the model has
a low low energy limit which reproduces the non-relativistic
classical dynamics of a system of N particles in flat spacetime, 2)
there is a minimum length, and 3) some of the particles are in a
thermal bath or otherwise evolve stochastically. We then construct
simple functions of the degrees of freedom of the theory and show
that their probability distributions evolve according to the
Schroedinger equation. The non-local hidden variables required to
satisfy the conditions of Bell's theorem are the links in the
fundamental graph that connect nodes adjacent in the graph but
distant in the approximate metric of the low energy limit. In the
presence of these links, distant stochastic fluctuations are
transferred into universal quantum fluctuations. 

 
 
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Re: JOINING post

2004-03-22 Thread Doriano Brogioli
andy wrote:
Hi Everyone,

This is really a cool list, where even the most exotic
scenarios are seriously taken into account. 

I'm andy, have mostly worked in IT during the 13 years 
since my physics graduation. 

I like simple theories. You may notice this in future 
postings and on my web site.

Hopefully some day you will find some more lines about 
me at

www.universes.org/a/andy.html
It doesn't exist
Doriano

Cheers
 andy
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Path integrals and statistical mechanics

2003-06-20 Thread Doriano Brogioli
Hi to everybody. I subscribed to this mailing list yesterday, but I'd 
like to pose a question since I think it _must_ be the right place.

Quantum mechanics can be formulated in terms of path integrals (Feinmann 
integrals). By substituting the time t with an (Euclidean) immaginary 
time i s, that is, a real value s times the imaginary root mean square 
of -1, the path integral changes to the Boltzmann distribution, where 
the energy is the (classical) energy of a continuum (classical) 
mechanical system, at temperature 1/h.

From this fact, someone claims that quantum world is simply a classical 
world, but rotated by pi/2 in the complex plane of t: the real world is 
classical, but we see it at the wrong angle. In particular, something 
similar happens near the event horizon of a black hole, and it should be 
the ultimate origin of Hawking radiation.

I tried to derive this relation, or some kind of this, and I concluded 
that it holds only at a formal level. Has anyone any idea about this topic?

Doriano Brogioli