Re: In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a thought, which is the universe.

2013-05-03 Thread lennartn 


Religion is a parasite on spirituality. And a dangerous one! 

LN


On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 13:15:48 -0400, John Clark  wrote:  

On Mon, Apr
29, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Roger Clough  wrote: 

In the beginning was the
cosmic mind (which I call God) ,   

I think that's being rather
impolite. It's true that He's not big on formality and in fact His
friends just call Him Bob, but He's Mr. God to you.

who had a
thought   

And God's thought was this Why do I exist? What is my
purpose in life? Who made me? And if I've always existed why haven't I
always not existed? 

  which is the universe.

And then God wondered
what method He had used to make the universe because He seems to have
forgotten. And so it came to be that God had lots and lots of questions
but He had no answers.

 John K Clark 

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Re: Re: Subjectivity is no longer a dirty word! A nice video discussingthe dual aspect theory

2012-10-05 Thread lennartn 
I recommend: Incomplete Nature: How Mind Emerged From Matter by
Terrence Deacon, a professor of neuroscience and anthropology at the
University of California, Berkeley

LN

On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 07:33:53 -0400, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net
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 Hi Richard Ruquist  
 
 I appreciate your suggestion, but I am already convinced, 
 and have other sources besides that. 
 
 What I'm looking for is a book which gives the central 
 mechanism of  abiogenesis, the production of living
 matter from nonliving matter. If indded there is
 such a thing.
 
 
 Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
 10/5/2012  
 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen 
 
 
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 Subject: Re: Subjectivity is no longer a dirty word! A nice video
 discussingthe dual aspect theory
 
 
 Along the theme of a dual-aspect theory of reality, 
 I recommend the book 
 Mind and Cosmos:Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of 
 Nature Is Almost Certainly False by Nagel, Thomas. 
 It actually has little to do with Darwin but rather discusses how 
 consciousness, cognition, etc. cannot not be explained by materialism. 
 Richard 
 
 
 On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Roger Clough  wrote: 
 Hi Stephen P. King

 Many thanks, Stephan !

 I should have known it before, but
 double-aspect and/or dual-aspect theories
 of mind aren't afraid of using the word
 subjectivity.

 Now all they have to do is find out
 who or what is the subjectr of subjectivity !




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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ3Z-Y99wW0

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