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From: Fred Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Everything [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: Peculiarities of our universe
One other scenario is that a civilization has indeed reached this
pervasive
state, but not in a form we'd
One other scenario is that a civilization has indeed reached this
pervasive
state, but not in a form we'd readily recognize. They may be
nano-lifeforms
or microorganisms, for example. This is probably harder to believe
because
only so much complexity can be stored in such an organism,
for the hair-splitting and thank you for a good post
John Mikes
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From: Hal Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Peculiarities of our universe
There has been a huge amount written about the Fermi Paradox (why
On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 09:57:18AM -0800, Hal Finney wrote:
[...] That is
(turning to the Schmidhuber interpretation) it must be much simpler
to write a program that just barely allows for the possibility of life
than to write one which makes it easy. This is a prediction of the AUH,
and
deduce that AUH is (probably) false.
Are you saying Wei, that there is a flaw in this logic?
- David
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From: Wei Dai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 13 January 2004 9:22 AM
To: Hal Finney
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Peculiarities of our universe
: Re: Peculiarities of our universe
One possibility for why we do not find ourself in an old, galaxy-spanning
civilization has already been mentioned--perhaps after a certain point all
the individual minds in a civilization unite into a single Borg-like
hivemind, and this reduction in the number
Why don't we see Others?
I think the anthropic principle neatly explains both scenarios: why we're
here, yet nobody else seems to be.
If life nucleation density is arbitrarily low (e.g. 1/visible univers) we
still wouldn't fail to observe our existance.
It is also worthwhile to mention that
There has been a huge amount written about the Fermi Paradox (why are
there no aliens) over the years, and I don't want to reiterate that here.
You can come up with scenarios in which intelligent life is common but
where they just aren't visible, but IMO such explanations are not very
natural.
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From: Hal Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:24 AM
Subject: Peculiarities of our universe
There are a couple of peculiarities of our universe which it would be
nice if the All-Universe Hypothesis (AUH) could explain
Hal Finney wrote:
One is the apparent paucity of life and intelligence in our universe.
This was first expressed as the Fermi Paradox, i.e., where are the aliens?
As our understanding of technological possibility has grown the problem
has become even more acute. It seems likely that our
There are a couple of peculiarities of our universe which it would be
nice if the All-Universe Hypothesis (AUH) could explain, or at least
shed light on them.
One is the apparent paucity of life and intelligence in our universe.
This was first expressed as the Fermi Paradox, i.e., where
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From: Hal Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:24 PM
Subject: Peculiarities of our universe
There are a couple of peculiarities of our universe which it would be
nice if the All-Universe Hypothesis (AUH) could explain
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