Re: The Emergence of Consciousness in the Quantum Universe

2011-03-10 Thread Stephen Paul King 



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Subject: The Emergence of Consciousness in the Quantum Universe


http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1103/1103.1651v1.pdf
Here we go again.
Ronald


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Hi Ronald!

   My first impression of this paper is that it is yet another attempt to 
reify the doctrine of dialectical materialism, then I wondered if the paper 
was the output of a science-word-salad-izer

but reading further I saw some gems:

Another implication of the current proposal is that there can be no 
self-aware mecha-
nized artificial intelligence no matter how advanced the technology becomes, 
since biological
intelligence is evolved as part of inter-connected universal evolution. A 
mechanical com-
puter’s CPU will never acquire free will, since it will never be able to 
establish the infinite
multitude of connections with the rest of the universe environment, as 
manifested in the
entanglement of the phases of the wave-functions (the Aharonov-Bohm effect). 
However,
entities formed through semi-biological pathways such as cloning are 
possible because they
tap into nature’s established pathways to establish these infinite 
connections.


   As my kids would say: OMG! LOL! /facepalm

   I would like to agree in principle with Zhang but I am not sure that 
s/he is not a Chinese Room!


Onward!

Stephen

PS, thanks for posting this reference


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Re: The Emergence of Consciousness in the Quantum Universe

2011-03-10 Thread Russell Standish 
Thanks Stephen, for the warning. I guess the onus is on the author to
not sound like a crank! 

By the way, all the ligatures in your quote below displayed as a space
in my email reader, so it doubled the effect :(.

Cheers

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 08:27:04AM -0500, Stephen Paul King wrote:
 Hi Ronald!
 
My first impression of this paper is that it is yet another
 attempt to reify the doctrine of dialectical materialism, then I
 wondered if the paper was the output of a science-word-salad-izer
 but reading further I saw some gems:
 
 Another implication of the current proposal is that there can be no
 self-aware mecha-
 nized artificial intelligence no matter how advanced the technology
 becomes, since biological
 intelligence is evolved as part of inter-connected universal
 evolution. A mechanical com-
 puter’s CPU will never acquire free will, since it will never be
 able to establish the infinite
 multitude of connections with the rest of the universe environment,
 as manifested in the
 entanglement of the phases of the wave-functions (the Aharonov-Bohm
 effect). However,
 entities formed through semi-biological pathways such as cloning are
 possible because they
 tap into nature’s established pathways to establish these infinite
 connections.
 
As my kids would say: OMG! LOL! /facepalm
 
I would like to agree in principle with Zhang but I am not sure
 that s/he is not a Chinese Room!
 
 Onward!
 
 Stephen
 
 PS, thanks for posting this reference
 
 
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