Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-02-28 Thread Tomas Pales
On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 4:52:11 AM UTC+1 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On 2/27/2022 4:44 PM, Tomas Pales wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 11:45:32 PM UTC+1 meeke...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> >> >> On 2/27/2022 12:59 PM, Tomas Pales wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, February 27,

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-02-27 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/27/2022 4:44 PM, Tomas Pales wrote: On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 11:45:32 PM UTC+1 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/27/2022 12:59 PM, Tomas Pales wrote: On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 8:50:02 PM UTC+1 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/27/2022 8:43 AM, Tomas

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-02-27 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/27/2022 4:18 PM, Tomas Pales wrote: On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 11:38:00 PM UTC+1 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: How could a set of things produce contradictions. Contradiction is a relation of propositions, not things. I'm surprised that you a strong advocate of examples

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-02-27 Thread Tomas Pales
On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 11:45:32 PM UTC+1 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On 2/27/2022 12:59 PM, Tomas Pales wrote: > > > > On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 8:50:02 PM UTC+1 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> >> On 2/27/2022 8:43 AM, Tomas Pales wrote: >> >> On Thursday, February 24, 2022

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-02-27 Thread Tomas Pales
On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 11:38:00 PM UTC+1 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: > How could a set of things produce contradictions. Contradiction is a > relation of propositions, not things. I'm surprised that you a strong > advocate of examples over definitions would not have noticed that

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-02-27 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 5:38 PM Brent Meeker wrote: >> I would say a useful definition of "possible" is the set of things or >> relationships that do not produce contradictions. > > > > > * How could a set of things produce contradictions. Contradiction is a > relation of propositions, not

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-02-27 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/27/2022 12:59 PM, Tomas Pales wrote: On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 8:50:02 PM UTC+1 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/27/2022 8:43 AM, Tomas Pales wrote: On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 4:45:11 AM UTC+1 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: This should be of interest to

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-02-27 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/27/2022 12:52 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 2:50 PM Brent Meeker wrote: /<"Possible" is a rather ill defined concept and "everything possible" is even worse. / I would say a useful definition of "possible" is the set of things or relationships that do not

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-02-27 Thread Tomas Pales
On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 8:50:02 PM UTC+1 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On 2/27/2022 8:43 AM, Tomas Pales wrote: > > On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 4:45:11 AM UTC+1 meeke...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> This should be of interest to all the everythingists on this list. I'd >>

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-02-27 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 2:50 PM Brent Meeker wrote: *<"Possible" is a rather ill defined concept and "everything possible" is > even worse. * I would say a useful definition of "possible" is the set of things or relationships that do not produce contradictions. I would also say it's easier to

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-02-27 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/27/2022 8:43 AM, Tomas Pales wrote: On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 4:45:11 AM UTC+1 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: This should be of interest to all the everythingists on this list.  I'd especially like to hear what Bruno thinks of it.  It's a bit expensive, so I may wait for

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-02-27 Thread Tomas Pales
On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 4:45:11 AM UTC+1 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: > This should be of interest to all the everythingists on this list. I'd > especially like to hear what Bruno thinks of it. It's a bit expensive, so > I may wait for more reviews before I take it up. > >

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-02-25 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
My view is that knowing how the Nobel committee does science awards that Wheeler, or how the committee knifed Fred Hoyle's work on CNO physics is another reason for outsiders to de-rate the Nobel's celebrity. Harumph, as we chide in the hinterlands.  -Original Message- From: Brent

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-02-24 Thread Brent Meeker
Wheeler never got a Nobel. I got a reply from Wilson essentially saying he's not interested the deriving QM from anything, he regards it as fundamental and is seeking to "rebuild the world as we know it from there". Brent On 2/24/2022 6:16 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: Lewis's Modal realism

Re: The Nature of Contingency: Quantum Physics as Modal Realism

2022-02-24 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Lewis's Modal realism is just different verbiage for (as the bibliography on the article) a more rigorous analysis started by High Everett, and its further work by Bryce DeWitt & and nobelist, John Archibald Wheeler.  Until someone figures out how to view our world splitting off, or see's some

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