Re: One more nail in comp's coffin.

2012-10-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 22 Oct 2012, at 15:50, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno, My own subjectivity is 1p. OK. By definition. I don't believe a computer can have consciousness, but suppose we let the computer have consciousness as well. OK. Although it can only be a manner of speaking. If by computer you

Re: One more nail in comp's coffin.

2012-10-24 Thread Jason Resch
Jason Resch Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-23, 10:30:37 Subject: Re: One more nail in comp's coffin. On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno, My own subjectivity is 1p. I don't believe a computer can have consciousness, but suppose we let the computer have

Re: Re: One more nail in comp's coffin.

2012-10-24 Thread Roger Clough
ubject: Re: One more nail in comp's coffin. On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno, My own subjectivity is 1p. I don't believe a computer can have consciousness, but suppose we let the computer have consciousness as well. Let a descriptor be 3p. Let m

Re: One more nail in comp's coffin.

2012-10-23 Thread Jason Resch
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Bruno, > > My own subjectivity is 1p. I don't believe a computer can > have consciousness, but suppose we let the computer have > consciousness as well. > > Let a descriptor be 3p. Let my consciousness = 1p > > But the computer's conscious

One more nail in comp's coffin.

2012-10-22 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno, My own subjectivity is 1p. I don't believe a computer can have consciousness, but suppose we let the computer have consciousness as well. Let a descriptor be 3p. Let my consciousness = 1p But the computer's consciousness would be different, say 1p' -- because, let's say, it's less int