Ontological status: biological species as individuals or sets? Thoughts?

2013-10-23 Thread Francisco Boni
Two apparently distinct ontological distinctions:

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/species/#SpeInd vs
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/species/#SpeSet


After the development of set theory, however, a distinction of the
scholastics between intension, of sets that were circumscribed by
definitions, and extension, by member inclusion, was revived, and the
logical tradition of species was held to be a matter of intensional
definition. In a seminal summary of the traditional pre-set theoretic
logic of diairesis, or division, from the most general to the most
specific, H. W. Joseph (1916) made a clear distinction, as Whately had
90 years earlier in 1826 (see below), between logical species and
“natural” species, but the developers of the essentialism story failed
to pick this up, and read him as saying that species of living things
were the same as the logical species (as discussed in Chung 2003,
Winsor 2001, 2003, 2006a).

In a discussion of what counted as a kind in natural history, William
Whewell in his Philosophy of the Inductive Sciences (1840) gave a good
account of natural kinds as being types from which there were
deviations, although he treated species themselves as simple objects.
John Stuart Mill disagreed and asserted that natural kinds were
definable and had universal (causal) properties for all members (Mill
2006).1 For Whewell, the type of the taxonomist was a natural kind;
for Mill, it was the element and the compound of chemistry and
physics. Still, I believe the weight of venerable history is on
Whewell’s side, not Mill’s, or to put it another way, that Mill’s
conception of natural kinds is not something that applies well to
historical sciences that are restricted to specific domains, like
natural history or taxonomy. And despite what we might think based on
the discussion of logic from Frege onwards, as late as the early 20th
century, for instance with John Venn (1866) and others, a natural kind
was indeed typically thought to be a kind of living beings, caused by
generation (Hacking 1991).

So much of the confusion about essences can be resolved if we do not
adopt the view that Mill introduced, that a real Kind must have a set
of necessary and sufficient properties. For Mill, a species would be a
natural kind (a phrase introduced by Venn, although he did not adopt
the Millian view regarding it; Mill just used the word Kind) if it had
some set of universally shared properties that made each organism a
member of it, rather like having a certain number of electrons,
positrons and neutrons makes each atom of an element that element. By
contrast, for Whewell, and for those taxonomists who he was accurately
describing in the Philosophy of the Inductive Sciences, to be a member
of some group, a species, a genus, and so on, is to be mostly like the
typical form, and to be something that can be supposed to share a
genealogy with that form. This sense of “essence” is something that, I
believe, is quite consistent with our present understanding of
genetics and populations; most members of most species share most
genes, but there are multiple genetic controls over some typical
traits, and some species have major genomic varieties. David Hull has
said that there is nothing so unusual or absurd in biology that some
species doesn’t have it somewhere or somewhen; I call this Hull’s
Rule. To be an essentialist in the world of Hull’s Rule means that you
cannot insist that taxa are going to always have some set of genetic
or other causes, but it doesn’t mean that you can’t say that taxa
mostly share causes. To be a taxon, I think, is to have some set of
general properties, the bulk of which any member will share.2 This is
sometimes called in philosophy the “family resemblance predicate”,
after Ludwig Wittgenstein’s example in the Philosophical
Investigations (Pigliucci 2003, Wittgenstein 1968), but over a century
before Wittgenstein, Whewell made just this case. Families resemble
each other because they share generative histories and hence
generative causes, but they share them typically.

The thesis known as the Individuality Thesis (Gayon 1996, Ghiselin
1997, Hull 1978), in which species are considered to be not kinds, but
named objects that have a historical location, is a defense of
biology, and especially genetics, against the encroachment of Mill’s
notion of a Natural Kind. Sure, say the individualists, species and
other biological taxa are not Natural Kinds (as defined by Mill). The
only other metaphysical notion open to philosophers of taxonomy is
that of an Individual, a thing that exists in one time and one place
or region, and has a start and an ending. Hence, species are
Individuals. I cannot fault this logic – species clearly aren’t the
kinds of Kinds that Mill required, and they actually are historical
objects, so I have no objection to their being called Individuals; but
I do think they have “essences”, or, rather, typical developmental
systems and responses to typical environments; to 

Re: Ontological status: biological species as individuals or sets? Thoughts?

2013-10-23 Thread meekerdb
Ontological status is always within some model we have created.  So one can created models 
in which species are defined extenstionally and create different models in which they are 
defined intensionally.  So what?  They are both our creations to help understand the 
world.  Does one work better? Have more predictive power?  Do they imply some operational 
tests?  It is a waste of time to argue about essences and which one is really real.


Brent

On 10/23/2013 8:10 PM, Francisco Boni wrote:

Two apparently distinct ontological distinctions:

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/species/#SpeInd vs
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/species/#SpeSet


After the development of set theory, however, a distinction of the
scholastics between intension, of sets that were circumscribed by
definitions, and extension, by member inclusion, was revived, and the
logical tradition of species was held to be a matter of intensional
definition. In a seminal summary of the traditional pre-set theoretic
logic of diairesis, or division, from the most general to the most
specific, H. W. Joseph (1916) made a clear distinction, as Whately had
90 years earlier in 1826 (see below), between logical species and
“natural” species, but the developers of the essentialism story failed

to pick this up, and read him as saying that species of living things
were the same as the logical species (as discussed in Chung 2003,
Winsor 2001, 2003, 2006a).

In a discussion of what counted as a kind in natural history, William
Whewell in his Philosophy of the Inductive Sciences (1840) gave a good
account of natural kinds as being types from which there were
deviations, although he treated species themselves as simple objects.
John Stuart Mill disagreed and asserted that natural kinds were
definable and had universal (causal) properties for all members (Mill
2006).1 For Whewell, the type of the taxonomist was a natural kind;
for Mill, it was the element and the compound of chemistry and
physics. Still, I believe the weight of venerable history is on
Whewell’s side, not Mill’s, or to put it another way, that Mill’s
conception of natural kinds is not something that applies well to
historical sciences that are restricted to specific domains, like
natural history or taxonomy. And despite what we might think based on
the discussion of logic from Frege onwards, as late as the early 20th
century, for instance with John Venn (1866) and others, a natural kind
was indeed typically thought to be a kind of living beings, caused by
generation (Hacking 1991).

So much of the confusion about essences can be resolved if we do not
adopt the view that Mill introduced, that a real Kind must have a set
of necessary and sufficient properties. For Mill, a species would be a
natural kind (a phrase introduced by Venn, although he did not adopt
the Millian view regarding it; Mill just used the word Kind) if it had
some set of universally shared properties that made each organism a
member of it, rather like having a certain number of electrons,
positrons and neutrons makes each atom of an element that element. By
contrast, for Whewell, and for those taxonomists who he was accurately
describing in the Philosophy of the Inductive Sciences, to be a member
of some group, a species, a genus, and so on, is to be mostly like the
typical form, and to be something that can be supposed to share a
genealogy with that form. This sense of “essence” is something that, I

believe, is quite consistent with our present understanding of
genetics and populations; most members of most species share most
genes, but there are multiple genetic controls over some typical
traits, and some species have major genomic varieties. David Hull has
said that there is nothing so unusual or absurd in biology that some
species doesn’t have it somewhere or somewhen; I call this Hull’s
Rule. To be an essentialist in the world of Hull’s Rule means that you
cannot insist that taxa are going to always have some set of genetic
or other causes, but it doesn’t mean that you can’t say that taxa
mostly share causes. To be a taxon, I think, is to have some set of
general properties, the bulk of which any member will share.2 This is
sometimes called in philosophy the “family resemblance predicate”,
after Ludwig Wittgenstein’s example in the Philosophical
Investigations (Pigliucci 2003, Wittgenstein 1968), but over a century
before Wittgenstein, Whewell made just this case. Families resemble
each other because they share generative histories and hence
generative causes, but they share them typically.

The thesis known as the Individuality Thesis (Gayon 1996, Ghiselin
1997, Hull 1978), in which species are considered to be not kinds, but
named objects that have a historical location, is a defense of
biology, and especially genetics, against the encroachment of Mill’s
notion of a Natural Kind. Sure, say the individualists, species and
other biological taxa are not Natural Kinds (as defined by Mill). The
only other metaphysical 

Re: Ontological status: biological species as individuals or sets? Thoughts?

2013-10-23 Thread Francisco Boni
It seems biologists (and philosophers of biology) think that Kitcher's
motivation for asserting that species are sets is to allow spatiotemporally
unrestricted groups of organisms to form species. That motivation, however,
is not substantiated by biological theory or practice. Species as sets
(see http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/species/#SpeSet for context)

So it seems that this apparent prevalent opinion (according to Stanford
Encyclopedia of Philosophy) is rooted on the fact that defining them as set
is *difficult* for the scientist, because it is hard to compute and modify
the necessary and sufficient of their relationships and processes that
guarantee set membership, it seems that intensional definitions cannot the
capture historical development of distributed organisms that happen to be
taxonomically linked from tiem to time. So one define species as
Individuals and it seems easier to track their historical development. What
bothers me is that this seems, like you said, a matter of model-theoretic
reference and a kind of heuristic shortcut, an argument derived from
computational complexity.


On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:08 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:

 Ontological status is always within some model we have created.  So one
 can created models in which species are defined extenstionally and create
 different models in which they are defined intensionally.  So what?  They
 are both our creations to help understand the world.  Does one work better?
 Have more predictive power?  Do they imply some operational tests?  It is a
 waste of time to argue about essences and which one is really real.

 Brent


 On 10/23/2013 8:10 PM, Francisco Boni wrote:

 Two apparently distinct ontological distinctions:

 http://plato.stanford.edu/**entries/species/#SpeIndhttp://plato.stanford.edu/entries/species/#SpeIndvs
 http://plato.stanford.edu/**entries/species/#SpeSethttp://plato.stanford.edu/entries/species/#SpeSet


 After the development of set theory, however, a distinction of the
 scholastics between intension, of sets that were circumscribed by
 definitions, and extension, by member inclusion, was revived, and the
 logical tradition of species was held to be a matter of intensional
 definition. In a seminal summary of the traditional pre-set theoretic
 logic of diairesis, or division, from the most general to the most
 specific, H. W. Joseph (1916) made a clear distinction, as Whately had
 90 years earlier in 1826 (see below), between logical species and
 “natural” species, but the developers of the essentialism story failed

 to pick this up, and read him as saying that species of living things
 were the same as the logical species (as discussed in Chung 2003,
 Winsor 2001, 2003, 2006a).

 In a discussion of what counted as a kind in natural history, William
 Whewell in his Philosophy of the Inductive Sciences (1840) gave a good
 account of natural kinds as being types from which there were
 deviations, although he treated species themselves as simple objects.
 John Stuart Mill disagreed and asserted that natural kinds were
 definable and had universal (causal) properties for all members (Mill
 2006).1 For Whewell, the type of the taxonomist was a natural kind;
 for Mill, it was the element and the compound of chemistry and
 physics. Still, I believe the weight of venerable history is on
 Whewell’s side, not Mill’s, or to put it another way, that Mill’s
 conception of natural kinds is not something that applies well to
 historical sciences that are restricted to specific domains, like
 natural history or taxonomy. And despite what we might think based on
 the discussion of logic from Frege onwards, as late as the early 20th
 century, for instance with John Venn (1866) and others, a natural kind
 was indeed typically thought to be a kind of living beings, caused by
 generation (Hacking 1991).

 So much of the confusion about essences can be resolved if we do not
 adopt the view that Mill introduced, that a real Kind must have a set
 of necessary and sufficient properties. For Mill, a species would be a
 natural kind (a phrase introduced by Venn, although he did not adopt
 the Millian view regarding it; Mill just used the word Kind) if it had
 some set of universally shared properties that made each organism a
 member of it, rather like having a certain number of electrons,
 positrons and neutrons makes each atom of an element that element. By
 contrast, for Whewell, and for those taxonomists who he was accurately
 describing in the Philosophy of the Inductive Sciences, to be a member
 of some group, a species, a genus, and so on, is to be mostly like the
 typical form, and to be something that can be supposed to share a
 genealogy with that form. This sense of “essence” is something that, I

 believe, is quite consistent with our present understanding of
 genetics and populations; most members of most species share most
 genes, but there are multiple genetic controls over some typical
 traits, and