Re: Re: I believe that comp's requirement is one of as if rather thanis

2012-10-13 Thread John Clark 
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:


  if you could tell me how to determine if a computer has intelligence


The same way I determine if one of my fellow human beings is intelligent,
if he beats me at a intellectual task then he's intelligent, in fact he's
more intelligent than I am at least at that task. A few people are more
intelligent than me at nearly everything, some are better at only a few
very specialized tasks and some are better than me at nothing, like people
in a coma or dead people.

 free will


What a odd sequence of ASCII characters, perhaps your keyboard had a
malfunction.

 consciousness


I detect consciousness in computers the exact same way I determine it in my
fellow human beings, I guess.  I guess that if they're behaving
intelligently then they're conscious.

  John K Clark

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Re: Re: I believe that comp's requirement is one of as if rather thanis

2012-10-12 Thread Roger Clough 
Hi John Clark 

I have no money on this issue. I'd be very happy 
if you could tell me how to determine if a computer has
intelligence, free will, consciousness or life.


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
10/12/2012  
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen 


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Subject: Re: I believe that comp's requirement is one of as if rather 
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On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Roger Clough  wrote: 


 Comp seems to avoid this insurmountable problem by avoiding the issue of 
 whether the computer actually had an experience, only that it appeared to 
 have an experience. ?o comp's requirement is as if rather than is. 


In other words exactly precisely the same procedure you have used every hour of 
every day of every year of your waking life to determine if your fellow human 
beings are behaving as if they are conscious or not. 

? John K Clark 


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