On 26 Sep 2015, at 08:41, Pierz wrote:
On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:24:36 AM UTC+10, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
On 25 Sep 2015, at 14:11, Pierz wrote:
I disagree with most of the theorising about this scenario, which
seems to me to be coming from a much too theoretical place. Humans
On 26 Sep 2015, at 04:21, Russell Standish wrote:
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 06:24:29PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The blank state is more like the state you are in before your parent
met. It is consciousness before any distinction, nor
differentiation. I was against that idea, like Brouwer, bu
On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 2:24:36 AM UTC+10, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 25 Sep 2015, at 14:11, Pierz wrote:
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> I disagree with most of the theorising about this scenario, which seems to
> me to be coming from a much too theoretical place. Humans may or may not be
> computational at
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 06:24:29PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> The blank state is more like the state you are in before your parent
> met. It is consciousness before any distinction, nor
> differentiation. I was against that idea, like Brouwer, but I have
> to say that salvia has throw a big d
On 25 Sep 2015, at 14:11, Pierz wrote:
I disagree with most of the theorising about this scenario, which
seems to me to be coming from a much too theoretical place. Humans
may or may not be computational at base, but we are not PCs. We are
not blank slates, waiting for an operating system
I disagree with most of the theorising about this scenario, which seems to
me to be coming from a much too theoretical place. Humans may or may not be
computational at base, but we are not PCs. We are not blank slates, waiting
for an operating system to be installed. Our brains and bodies imply
they were born into such an "experiment"
> the outcome result would be the same.
>
> -Chris
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> *From:* Bruno Marchal
> *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2015 6:09 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Some questions on ont
2015 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: Some questions on ontology of dreams
On 21 Sep 2015, at 03:16, Brent Meeker wrote:
If you raise kittens in complete darkness for a few weeks they never develop
vision. I don't think people who are born blind hallucinate visions. Those
are couple of
On 21 Sep 2015, at 03:16, Brent Meeker wrote:
If you raise kittens in complete darkness for a few weeks they never
develop vision. I don't think people who are born blind hallucinate
visions. Those are couple of data points. I suspect that if a
person were to grow up without any sensory
Hi Brian, Telmo and others,
On 21 Sep 2015, at 02:49, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Hi Brian,
That's an interesting question. My take is this: I think trying to
understand that experience is like trying to understand what it
feels like to be an amoeba. It's just too alien.
I am not sure. I can im
On Sunday, 20 September 2015, Brian Tenneson wrote:
> I wonder what would happen to someone's mind if they were born in a white
> (or any color) isolation tank. What would happen as years wore on? Would
> the person ever hallucinate anything? It has only seen the tank for his
> whole life. So wha
If you raise kittens in complete darkness for a few weeks they never
develop vision. I don't think people who are born blind hallucinate
visions. Those are couple of data points. I suspect that if a person
were to grow up without any sensory input, or extremely impoverished
ones, they would
Hi Brian,
That's an interesting question. My take is this: I think trying to
understand that experience is like trying to understand what it feels like
to be an amoeba. It's just too alien.
We have some clues. For example, it is known that if children don't learn a
language until a certain age, t
I wonder what would happen to someone's mind if they were born in a white
(or any color) isolation tank. What would happen as years wore on? Would
the person ever hallucinate anything? It has only seen the tank for his
whole life. So what would inspire him to hallucinate something? Can he
hallucina
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