Re: Turing vs Godel

2012-08-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Aug 2012, at 17:23, Roger wrote: Wouldn't Godel incompleteness be the fatal flaw in at least some Turing machines ? It is a "fatal flaw" in the sense that it prevents all Turing machine, including all universal machines, to be omniscient, even just about arithmetic and machines.

Re: Turing vs Godel

2012-08-17 Thread Jason Resch
On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:23 AM, "Roger " wrote: Hi Jason Resch Wouldn't Godel incompleteness be the fatal flaw in at least some Turing machines ? A flaw in what sense? Meaning, they cannot have a full set of instructions or data. It doesn't matter how many instructions a particular a

Turing vs Godel

2012-08-17 Thread Roger
Hi Jason Resch Wouldn't Godel incompleteness be the fatal flaw in at least some Turing machines ? Meaning, they cannot have a full set of instructions or data. Roger , rclo...@verizon.net 8/17/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function.