On 14 Mar 2014, at 06:08, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/13/2014 9:54 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
which was my objection to writing <>t. In such a formula, t can
only be regarded as shorthand for some tautology.
If you want. Any simple provable proposition would do.
Then f also occurs in every world s
On 3/13/2014 9:54 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
which was my objection to writing <>t. In such a formula, t can only be regarded as
shorthand for some tautology.
If you want. Any simple provable proposition would do.
Then f also occurs in every world since (p & ~p) can be formed in every world. B
On 14 Mar 2014, at 01:49, Russell Standish wrote:
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:10:45AM +1300, LizR wrote:
(Do everyone see a lozenge here: ◊ ?)
Yes I do!
Not me (alas).
Damned. I will need to use the more ugly <> instead of the cute ◊ !
No problem.
Bruno
Although it is visible when
On 13 Mar 2014, at 22:10, LizR wrote:
> (Do everyone see a lozenge here: ◊ ?)
Yes I do!
Nice, I hope everyone see it. Does someone not see a lozenge? Here: ◊
Do someone not see Gödel's second theorem here: ◊t -> ~[]◊t ?
Bruno
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On 13 Mar 2014, at 20:05, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/13/2014 11:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Mar 2014, at 18:03, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/13/2014 8:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 12 Mar 2014, at 21:51, LizR wrote:
On 13 March 2014 04:33, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hello Terren,
On 12 Mar 2014, a
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:10:45AM +1300, LizR wrote:
> > (Do everyone see a lozenge here: ◊ ?)
>
> Yes I do!
>
Not me (alas). Although it is visible when typing my response.
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On 3/13/2014 11:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Mar 2014, at 18:03, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/13/2014 8:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 12 Mar 2014, at 21:51, LizR wrote:
On 13 March 2014 04:33, Bruno Marchal mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>>
wrote:
Hello Terren,
On 12 Mar 2014, at 04:34,
On 13 Mar 2014, at 18:03, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/13/2014 8:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 12 Mar 2014, at 21:51, LizR wrote:
On 13 March 2014 04:33, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hello Terren,
On 12 Mar 2014, at 04:34, Terren Suydam wrote:
Hi Bruno,
Thanks, that helps. Can you expand a bit on <>t?
On 13 Mar 2014, at 17:56, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/13/2014 8:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 12 Mar 2014, at 21:14, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/12/2014 8:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hello Terren,
On 12 Mar 2014, at 04:34, Terren Suydam wrote:
Hi Bruno,
Thanks, that helps. Can you expand a bit on
On 3/13/2014 8:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 12 Mar 2014, at 21:51, LizR wrote:
On 13 March 2014 04:33, Bruno Marchal mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> wrote:
Hello Terren,
On 12 Mar 2014, at 04:34, Terren Suydam wrote:
Hi Bruno,
Thanks, that helps. Can you expand a bit on <>t?
On 3/13/2014 8:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 12 Mar 2014, at 21:14, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/12/2014 8:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hello Terren,
On 12 Mar 2014, at 04:34, Terren Suydam wrote:
Hi Bruno,
Thanks, that helps. Can you expand a bit on <>t? Unfortunately I haven't had the
time t
On 12 Mar 2014, at 21:51, LizR wrote:
On 13 March 2014 04:33, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hello Terren,
On 12 Mar 2014, at 04:34, Terren Suydam wrote:
Hi Bruno,
Thanks, that helps. Can you expand a bit on <>t? Unfortunately I
haven't had the time to follow the modal logic threads, so please
f
On 12 Mar 2014, at 21:14, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/12/2014 8:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hello Terren,
On 12 Mar 2014, at 04:34, Terren Suydam wrote:
Hi Bruno,
Thanks, that helps. Can you expand a bit on <>t? Unfortunately I
haven't had the time to follow the modal logic threads, so please
On 13 March 2014 04:33, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> Hello Terren,
>
> On 12 Mar 2014, at 04:34, Terren Suydam wrote:
>
> Hi Bruno,
>
> Thanks, that helps. Can you expand a bit on <>t? Unfortunately I haven't
> had the time to follow the modal logic threads, so please forgive me but I
> don't understa
On 3/12/2014 8:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hello Terren,
On 12 Mar 2014, at 04:34, Terren Suydam wrote:
Hi Bruno,
Thanks, that helps. Can you expand a bit on <>t? Unfortunately I haven't had the time
to follow the modal logic threads, so please forgive me but I don't understand how you
co
Hello Terren,
On 12 Mar 2014, at 04:34, Terren Suydam wrote:
Hi Bruno,
Thanks, that helps. Can you expand a bit on <>t? Unfortunately I
haven't had the time to follow the modal logic threads, so please
forgive me but I don't understand how you could represent reality
with <>t.
Short
Hi Bruno,
Thanks, that helps. Can you expand a bit on <>t? Unfortunately I haven't
had the time to follow the modal logic threads, so please forgive me but I
don't understand how you could represent reality with <>t.
Thanks,
T
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> Hi Terran
Hi Terran,
On 11 Mar 2014, at 17:10, Terren Suydam wrote:
Hi Bruno,
Sure, "consciousness here-and-now" is undoubtable. But the p refers
to the contents of consciousness, which is not undoubtable in many
cases. "I am in pain" cannot be doubted when one is feeling it, but
other felt sens
On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:10:31 PM UTC-4, Terren Suydam wrote:
>
>
> Hi Bruno,
>
> Sure, "consciousness here-and-now" is undoubtable. But the p refers to the
> contents of consciousness, which is not undoubtable in many cases. "I am in
> pain" cannot be doubted when one is feeling it, but o
Hi Bruno,
Sure, "consciousness here-and-now" is undoubtable. But the p refers to the
contents of consciousness, which is not undoubtable in many cases. "I am in
pain" cannot be doubted when one is feeling it, but other felt sensations
can be doubted, e.g. see
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl
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