Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 03:50:09PM +1000, Colin Hales wrote: > > Hi Russel, > > > I don't see that you've made your point. > > If you achieve this, you have created an artificial > > creative process, a sort of holy grail of AI/ALife. > > Well? So what? Somebody has to do it. :-) > > The 'holy

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

Firstly, congratulations to Hal on asking a very good question. It is obviously one of the *right* questions to ask and has flushed out some of the best ideas on the subject. I agree with some things said by each contributor so far, and yet take issue with other assertions. My view includes:

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

On 05/06/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Self-improvement requires more than just extra hardware. It also > requires the ability to integrate new knowledge with an existing > knowledge base in order to create truly orginal (novel) knowledge. > But this appears to be precisely the

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

On 05/06/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The human brain doesn't function as a fully reflective system. Too > much is hard-wired and not accessible to conscious experience. Our > brains simply don't function as a peroperly integrated system. Full > reflection would enable the a

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

Le 03-juin-07, à 21:52, Hal Finney a écrit : > > Part of what I wanted to get at in my thought experiment is the > bafflement and confusion an AI should feel when exposed to human ideas > about consciousness. Various people here have proffered their own > ideas, and we might assume that the AI

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > On 05/06/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] * > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > Self-improvement requires more than just extra hardware. It also > requires the ability to integrate new knowledge with an existing >

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

On Jun 4, 11:50 pm, Torgny Tholerus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom Caylor skrev: > > > I think that IF a computer were conscious (I don't believe it is > > possible), then the way we could know it is conscious would not be by > > interviewing it with questions and looking for the "right" answers

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MG: '... the generation of > feelings which represent accurate tokens about motivational > automatically leads to ethical behaviour.' I have my doubts about this. I think it is safer to say that reflective intelligence and the ability to accurately perceive and identify with the emotions of oth

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

On Jun 5, 7:12 am, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le 03-juin-07, à 21:52, Hal Finney a écrit : > > > > > Part of what I wanted to get at in my thought experiment is the > > bafflement and confusion an AI should feel when exposed to human ideas > > about consciousness. Various people h

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

On Jun 5, 10:20 pm, "Stathis Papaioannou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why would you need to change the goal structure in order to improve > yourself? Improving yourself requires the ability to make more effective decisions (ie take decisions which which move you toward goals more efficient