Re: [SPAM] Re: Asifism

2007-06-22 Thread Mark Peaty
CDES = Compassion, Democracy, Ethics, and Scientific method These are prerequisites for the survival of civilisation. Regards Mark Peaty CDES [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.arach.net.au/~mpeaty/ David Nyman wrote: > On Jun 21, 8:03 pm, Mark Peaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I always

Re: [SPAM] Re: Asifism

2007-06-22 Thread Quentin Anciaux
This is completely arbitrary and history does not show this. Quentin 2007/6/22, Mark Peaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > CDES = Compassion, Democracy, Ethics, and Scientific method > > These are prerequisites for the survival of civilisation. > > Regards > > Mark Peaty CDES > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >

Re: [SPAM] Re: Asifism

2007-06-22 Thread Mark Peaty
MN: 'If an >> mbrane interpenetrates another, this would provide >> differentiation and thus the beginnings of structure. > > Yes, this may be an attractive notion. I've wondered about myself. > 'Interpenetration' - as a species of interaction - still seems to > imply that different 'mbranes' ar

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

2007-06-22 Thread David Nyman
On 21/06/07, Russell Standish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: RS: It seems you've miscontrued my "bashing", sorry about that. I was, perhaps somewhat colourfully, meaning "extracting some meaning". Since your prose (and often Colin's for that matter) often sounds like gibberish to me, I have to work at

Re: [SPAM] Re: Asifism

2007-06-22 Thread David Nyman
On 22/06/07, Mark Peaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MP: Who is to say what mbranes really are, except that in this interpretation of the idea, each IS its own existence; I assume we can say nothing definite about how each such existence would compare with others or anything much about 'where' they

Re: [SPAM] Re: Asifism

2007-06-22 Thread Mark Peaty
History has not finished yet, and I am proposing that we try to ensure that it doesn't. If you truly think I am wrong in my assertion, then you have a moral duty to show me - and the rest of the world - on the basis of clear and unambiguous empirical evidence where and how I am wrong. Without

Re: [SPAM] Re: Asifism

2007-06-22 Thread Brent Meeker
Mark Peaty wrote: > History has not finished yet, and I am proposing that we try to > ensure that it doesn't. > > If you truly think I am wrong in my assertion, then you have a > moral duty to show me - and the rest of the world - on the basis > of clear and unambiguous empirical evidence wher

Re: Asifism

2007-06-22 Thread Quentin Anciaux
On Friday 22 June 2007 20:38:50 Mark Peaty wrote: > History has not finished yet, and I am proposing that we try to > ensure that it doesn't. Agreed, but it was not what I meant to say... it is the opposite... you can't assert "Compassion, Democracy, Ethics, and Scientific method. These are pre

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

2007-06-22 Thread John Mikes
Dear David. do not expect from me the theoretical level of technicality-talk er get from Bruno: I talk (and think) common sense (my own) and if the theoretical technicalities sound strange, I return to my thinking. That's what I got, that's what I use (plagiarized from the Hungarian commi joke: wh

Re: Asifism

2007-06-22 Thread Mark Peaty
QA: '... you can't > assert "Compassion, Democracy, Ethics, and Scientific method. These are > prerequisites for the survival of civilisation."... if you really believe > that History has not finished yet. MP: The fact of me making the assertion is logical; what I assert is not a closed prescr