Re: Rép : Observer Moment = Sigma1-Sentences

2007-08-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
Dear John, Le 12-août-07, à 18:00, John Mikes a écrit : > Dear Bruno, > did your scientific emotion just trapped you into showing that your > theoretical setup makes no sense? > Angels have NO rational meaning, they are phantsms of a (fairy?)tale > and if your math-formulation can be applied t

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2007-08-13 Thread Lennart Nilsson
Le 12-août-07, à 18:00, John Mikes a écrit : >Please, do not tell me that your theories are as well applicable to faith-items! Next time sopmebody will calculate the enthalpy of the resurrection. Frank Tipler calculated the probability of the resurrection in his last book "The Physics of Christian

Re: Rép : Observer Moment = Sigma1-Sentences

2007-08-13 Thread Kim Jones
Just to clarify - my question to Bruno was serious. He has mentioned angels before. I thank him for his considered response which I am still studying. The part of his post which prompted my question was: Also, if we are machine (or just lobian), we can indeed contemplate the consistency of *

Re: Rép : Observer Moment = Sigma1-Sentences

2007-08-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 13-août-07, à 13:29, Kim Jones a écrit : > where he appears to serve the option of being machine or some other > order of being. I must confess that I still don't understand the > ontology of angels as opposed to machines but I'm sure his reply > contains the reason Don't worry, I will t

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2007-08-13 Thread Lennart Nilsson
-Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Bruno Marchal Skickat: den 13 augusti 2007 16:36 Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ämne: Re: Rép : Observer Moment = Sigma1-Sentences >I don't think Church thesis can be grasped >conceptually without the understandi

Re: Rép : Observer Moment = Sigma1-Sentences

2007-08-13 Thread David Nyman
On 13/08/07, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question to David, and others who could be interested: is the notion > of enumerable and non enumerable set clear? Can you explain why the set > of functions from N to N is not enumerable? Do please remind us. "Off the top of my head", do

Re: Observer Moment = Sigma1-Sentences

2007-08-13 Thread David Nyman
On 11/08/07, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That the 'comp reality' is founded on the number realm, is almost > trivial. What is not trivial at all, and this is what the UDA shows, is > that, once you say "yes" to the digital doctor, for some level of > substitution, then your immateri

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2007-08-13 Thread Mirek Dobsicek
Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Question to David, and others who could be interested: is the notion > of enumerable and non enumerable set clear? Can you explain why the set > of functions from N to N is not enumerable? > > > Let us go slow and deep so that everybody can understand, once and

Re: Observer Moment = Sigma1-Sentences

2007-08-13 Thread Russell Standish
On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 11:31:51AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > No, I mean all information known by the observer (including, but not > > exclusively information know by the observer about erself). > > > OK, but then adding "about the universe" is confusing at this stage. > You interpret