2009/4/22 Brent Meeker :
> The question was whether information was enough, or whether something
> else is needed for consciousness. I think that sequence is needed,
> which we experience as the passage of time. When you speak of
> computations "going from A to B" do you suppose that this provi
Kelly wrote:
> On Apr 21, 11:31 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>> We could say that a state A access to a state B if there is a
>> universal machine (a universal number relation) transforming A into B.
>> This works at the ontological level, or for the third person point of
>> view. But if A is a
Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> 2009/4/22 Brent Meeker :
>
>
>> The question was whether information was enough, or whether something
>> else is needed for consciousness. I think that sequence is needed,
>> which we experience as the passage of time. When you speak of
>> computations "going from
On 22 Apr 2009, at 08:55, Kelly wrote:
>
> On Apr 21, 11:31 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> We could say that a state A access to a state B if there is a
>> universal machine (a universal number relation) transforming A into
>> B.
>> This works at the ontological level, or for the third person po
On 21 Apr 2009, at 20:33, Brent Meeker wrote:
>
> I understand that the UD computes all different histories so they are
> interleaved. But each particular computation consists of an ordered
> set
> of states. These states can belong to more than one sequence of
> conscious experience. But th
John,
On 21 Apr 2009, at 21:30, John Mikes wrote:
> Bruno,
> you made my day when you wrote:
> "SOMEHOW" - in:
> "...The machine has to be "runned" or "executed" relatively to a
> universal machine. You need the Peano or Robinson axiom to define
> such states and sequences of states.
> You
On Apr 21, 2:33 pm, Brent Meeker wrote:
> These states can belong to more than one sequence of
> conscious experience. But the question is whether the order of the
> states in the computation is always the same as their order in any
> sequence of conscious experience in which they appear? For ex
Kelly wrote:
> On Apr 21, 2:33 pm, Brent Meeker wrote:
>
>> These states can belong to more than one sequence of
>> conscious experience. But the question is whether the order of the
>> states in the computation is always the same as their order in any
>> sequence of conscious experience in w
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Kelly wrote:
>
> On Apr 21, 11:31 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> We could say that a state A access to a state B if there is a
>> universal machine (a universal number relation) transforming A into B.
>> This works at the ontological level, or for the third person p
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