Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-04 Thread Flammarion
On 3 Sep, 17:12, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Peter, the Yablo-Carnac-Gallois-Quine compendium is an interesting reading - except for missing the crux: You, as a person, with knowledge about the ideas of the bickering philosophers, could do us the politesse of a brief summary

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-04 Thread Flammarion
On 3 Sep, 17:12, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote: I am fundamentally opposed to 'ontology', because I consider it explaining the partial knowledge we have about 'the world' as if it were the total. How much we don't know is somehting we don't know.

Re: Against Physics

2009-09-04 Thread Rex Allen
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Rex Allenrexallen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Stathis Papaioannoustath...@gmail.com wrote: Dennett didn't invent compatibilism. It has a long history and extensive literature. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/compatibilism/ Dawkins

RE: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-04 Thread Jesse Mazer
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:21:17 -0700 Subject: Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology From: peterdjo...@yahoo.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com On 3 Sep, 17:12, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Peter, the Yablo-Carnac-Gallois-Quine compendium is an interesting

Re: Against Physics

2009-09-04 Thread Brent Meeker
Rex Allen wrote: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Rex Allenrexallen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Stathis Papaioannoustath...@gmail.com wrote: Dennett didn't invent compatibilism. It has a long history and extensive literature.

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Sep 2009, at 19:21, Flammarion wrote: ... Bruno has been arguign that numbers exist because there are true mathematical statements asserting their existence. The counterargument is that existence in mathematical statements is merely metaphorical. That is what is being argued

Re: Against Physics

2009-09-04 Thread Rex Allen
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Brent Meekermeeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: It seems foolish to beat Basil's car because (1) we know the beating will not improve it's function and (2) we know that is must be possible to fix it (since we built it in the first place).  However neither of these

Re: Against Physics

2009-09-04 Thread Rex Allen
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Brent Meekermeeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: Furthermore we have no idea how to fix the person in a mechanistic way - and if we did would it be ethical (c.f. Clockwork Orange). A further thought: the solution to crime in A Clockwork Orange has a similar

Re: Against Physics

2009-09-04 Thread Brent Meeker
Rex Allen wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Brent Meekermeeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: Furthermore we have no idea how to fix the person in a mechanistic way - and if we did would it be ethical (c.f. Clockwork Orange). A further thought: the solution to crime in A Clockwork

Re: Against Physics

2009-09-04 Thread Rex Allen
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Rex Allenrexallen...@gmail.com wrote: Obviously nobody is pro-poverty, but I think framing the issue in terms of personal responsibility and free-will incorrectly pushes the debate away from systemic solutions towards an excessive focus on individuals. Or,

Re: Against Physics

2009-09-04 Thread Rex Allen
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Brent Meekermeeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: But again, Dennett is mainly interested in pushing his Bright agenda...showing that Atheists are just like everybody else. Seems like you're mainly interested in picking a fight with Dennett.  I don't recall him

Re: Against Physics

2009-09-04 Thread Rex Allen
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Brent Meekermeeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: Of course the easiest, and 100% effective way to reduce crime is to repeal laws.  About 1/3 of our prison population is there because of non-violent drug use crimes. Indeed, I'm on board with that. But, I don't see