Re: UDA query

2009-12-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 28 Dec 2009, at 21:24, Nick Prince wrote: Well, it is better to assume just the axiom of, say, Robinson arithmetic. You assume 0, the successors, s(0), s(s(0)), etc. You assume some laws, like s(x) = s(y) - x = y, 0 ≠ s(x), the laws of addition, and multiplication. Then the existence of

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 28 Dec 2009, at 21:22, benjayk wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: I have never claim it explains something fundamental, it explains a new problem, the problem of justifying how machine dreams glue enough to stabilize first person plural sharable observation. The theory explains what exists,

Re: Robotic Scientist

2009-12-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 27 Dec 2009, at 23:16, russell standish wrote: On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:54:53AM -0500, John Mikes wrote: I wonder if a 'robot' can produce a noch nie dagewesen (Ger. for brand new) unrelated idea? I do know Hod Lipson from the ALife community, but am not familiar with this

Definition of universe

2009-12-29 Thread Mindey
Hello, I was just wondering, we are talking so much about universes, but how do we define universe? Sorry if that question was answered somewhere, but after a quick search I didn't find it. Inyuki http://www.universians.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Definition of universe

2009-12-29 Thread John Mikes
Mindey, I hurry to reply before some smarter guys do so on this list, so here is MY opinion: I consider this OUR universe a part of the Multiverse (unknown, unknowable, but assumed) with its 'physical' (so far discovered!) built (similarly assumed) and described as (our) so called 'physical

Re: Robotic Scientist

2009-12-29 Thread John Mikes
Bruno, excuse me if I suggest some circularity in you reply. A learning machine is by def. learning SOMETHING and that SOMETHING comes from its inside, if we do not specify an 'outside' it may explore (which would not be *learning*, rather *exploring* - a quite different ballgame - maybe followed

Bruno - puzzle

2009-12-29 Thread John Mikes
Dear Bruno, for those on the list who like to solve puzzles and got stuck with the question of my grandson: it is the word 'incorrectly' spelled as such. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: Robotic Scientist

2009-12-29 Thread John Mikes
Russell, I made my WEB-acquaintance with Hod - his interview-picture with his students reminded me of my then Cornelian son and friends, (before he was for 17 yrs in IBM's development) and saw that the 'inductive' you mention is still based on the already known(?) elements. The creative is

Re: Definition of universe

2009-12-29 Thread silky
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Mindey min...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I was just wondering, we are talking so much about universes, but how do we define universe? Sorry if that question was answered somewhere, but after a quick search I didn't find it. To me it would be that which is

Re: Definition of universe

2009-12-29 Thread Telmo Menezes
To me it would be that which is contained when you specify a number of dimensions. 2d? The universe can be a piece of paper. But that implies that dimensionality is a fundamental property of reality. It is conceivable that dimensionality is not fundamental, but rather emergent. -- You

Re: UDA query

2009-12-29 Thread ronaldheld
Bruno: Is there a UD that is implemented in Fortran? Ronald On Dec 29, 4:55 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 28 Dec 2009, at 21:24, Nick Prince wrote: Well, it is better to assume just the axiom of, say, Robinson arithmetic. You assume 0, the

Re: New Paper by Thomas Hertog and Stephen Hawking

2009-12-29 Thread Colin Hales
Jason Resch wrote: Described in this article: http://www.bioedonline.org/news/news.cfm?art=2617 This summation of all paths, proposed in the 1960s by physicist Richard Feynman and others, is the only way to explain some of the bizarre properties of quantum particles, such as their