Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

2018-11-25 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 5:10:49 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 11/24/2018 5:39 AM, John Clark wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 1:10 PM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > *> Some in AI will say if something is just informationally intelligent >> (or pseudo-intelligent) but not

Re: Adam and Eve’s Anthropic Superpowers

2018-11-25 Thread Mark Buda
When presented with the Monty Hall problem, I could not understand it without writing a program to help me. I guess that puts me in the good company of Paul Erdos, according to Wikipedia... -- Mark Buda I get my monkeys for nothing and my chimps for free. On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 6:58 PM John Clark

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

2018-11-25 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 4:40 AM Philip Thrift wrote: Dennett's said: “*The elusive subjective conscious experience—the redness of red, the painfulness of pain—that philosophers call qualia? Sheer illusion*.” The trouble with the above statement isn't so much that it's false, the trouble is

Re: Adam and Eve’s Anthropic Superpowers

2018-11-25 Thread Philip Thrift
On the other hand, some say you really don't understand something unless you can write a program that encodes that understanding. Can you encode your understanding of the Monte Hall problem in a "logical" (or proof assistant) language? - pt On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 10:11:08 AM UTC-6,

Re: Adam and Eve’s Anthropic Superpowers

2018-11-25 Thread Mark Buda
What I did at the time was write a Monte Carlo simulation. I don't know any of those languages well enough to do anything useful with them yet. I want to use one of the proof assistant languages for some the AGI stuff I am trying to work on, but I am not sure yet which one best suits my needs. I

Re: Adam and Eve’s Anthropic Superpowers

2018-11-25 Thread Philip Thrift
*Coq* seems to be a widely used proof assistant language with lots of examples of use. A recent proof system I've seen written about is *Imandra* [ https://www.imandra.ai/ ] which has been applied to the Monte Hall problem [