On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 4:40 AM Philip Thrift <cloudver...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Dennett's said:

“*The elusive subjective conscious experience—the redness of red, the
painfulness of pain—that philosophers call qualia? Sheer illusion*.”

The trouble with the above statement isn't so much that it's false, the
trouble is that it's silly. In the first place an illusion is a
misinterpretation of the senses, but pain is direct experience that needs
no interpretation. I would love to ask Mr. Dennett how things would be
different if pain was not an illusion, if he can't answer that, and I don't
think he could, then the statement "pain is a illusion" contains no
information.

And illusion itself is a conscious phenomena, so saying consciousness is an
illusion is just saying consciousness is consciousness which, although
true, is not very illuminating. When discussing any philosophical issue the
word "illusion" should be used very cautiously. And if the topic involves
consciousness or quala and silliness is to be avoided the word "illusion"
should never be used at all because it explains nothing.

John K Clark



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