John Collins, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, writes:
> Do we live in a universe in which future coin tosses will invariably result
> in "heads," or one in which a mixture of results will occur?
> Of course, we live in both, but the latter constitutes a numerically much
> larger class of universes; one would
day, November 13, 2003 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: "spooky action at a distance"
> This list is dedicated to exploring the implications of the prospect
> that all universes exist. According to this principle, universes
> exist with all possible laws of physics. It follows that universes
>> Or conceivably could an SAS in a classically deterministic universe surmise
>> something like a Level III multiverse, from considerations of the (ontological?)
>> status(es) of terms of alternatives, alternatives of the types studied in logic
>> (e.g. multivalue logic), mathematical theory of
scerir wrote:
Joao Leao:
> The association between non-locality and "retrocausality"
> (for lack of a better word) is anything but simple! In any
> case it has less to do with the flow of time than with its
> negation! [...]
Bell's theorem shows that, given the hidden variable lambda,
the result
Joao Leao:
> The association between non-locality and "retrocausality"
> (for lack of a better word) is anything but simple! In any
> case it has less to do with the flow of time than with its
> negation! [...]
Bell's theorem shows that, given the hidden variable lambda,
the result of the experim
At 09:30 13/11/03 -0800, Hal Finney wrote:
This list is dedicated to exploring the implications of the prospect
that all universes exist. According to this principle, universes
exist with all possible laws of physics.
So by "all universes exists" you mean "all physical universes" exists?
It f
By small I meant "small number of particles".
- David
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David Barrett-Lennard
> According to QM, in
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This list is dedicated to exploring the implications of the prospect
that all universes exist. According to this principle, universes
exist with all possible laws of physics. It follows that universes
exist which follow the MWI; and unive
Benjamin Udell, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, writes:
> As I recall, Tegmark also said that there would be classically
> deterministic universes, with no quantum physics at all. So, it seems
> that an SAS in such a universe would have no reason to surmise a Level
> III multiverse. It makes you wonder what
n Udell
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unive
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This list is dedicated to exploring the implications of the prospect that all
universes exist. According to this principle, universe
Hal Finney wrote:
This list is dedicated to exploring the implications
of the prospect
that all universes exist. According to this principle, universes
exist with all possible laws of physics. It follows that universes
exist which follow the MWI; and universes exist where only one branch
is rea
> http://arXiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9501011
> Both the "protective" and the "weak-value" experiments
> associated with this idea are now being tried out...
> -Joao
Yes and they are testing the famous 3-quantum-boxes
paradox http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0310091
with related negative probabilities!
Ca
This list is dedicated to exploring the implications of the prospect
that all universes exist. According to this principle, universes
exist with all possible laws of physics. It follows that universes
exist which follow the MWI; and universes exist where only one branch
is real and where the othe
scerir wrote:
David Barrett-Lennard
> Isn't "non-locality" simply associated with
> the ability for the "future" to affect the "past"?
Imo future and past means time, and light cones, etc.
If there is no flow of time, there is no past, and
no future.
The association between non-locality and "retr
scerir wrote:
David Barrett-Lennard
> According to QM, in small systems evolving according to the Hamiltonian,
> time certainly exists but there is no arrow of time within the scope
of
> the experiment. In such small systems we can run the movie
backwards
> and everything looks normal.
Yes, but
David Barrett-Lennard
> According to QM, in small systems evolving according to the Hamiltonian,
> time certainly exists but there is no arrow of time within the scope of
> the experiment. In such small systems we can run the movie backwards
> and everything looks normal.
Yes, but how small? Bec
opic measuring device) is able to send advanced waves
backwards in time, backward through the slits interacting with the
electron gun attempting to emit an electron, rather than say that the
"particle behaves like a wave", or there is a "pilot wave steering the
electron".
David Barrett-Lennard
> Isn't "non-locality" simply associated with
> the ability for the "future" to affect the "past"?
Imo future and past means time, and light cones, etc.
If there is no flow of time, there is no past, and
no future.
But I may be wrong. Because, at this level, as
pointed o
vember 2003 6:04 AM
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Subject: Re: "spooky action at a distance"
Norman Samish:
> This is unsatisfying.
Yes. It is also called the "conspiracy"
between QM and SR.
> I would like to hear speculations on non-locality.
There are many in QM. I mean many no
forgot the links :-)
Antoine Suarez http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0311004
Asher Peres http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0310010
Norman Samish:
> This is unsatisfying.
Yes. It is also called the "conspiracy"
between QM and SR.
> I would like to hear speculations on non-locality.
There are many in QM. I mean many non-localities.
In example the famous 'collapse', the 'Aharonov-Bohm' effect
(also with neutral particles),
> We are told that string theory needs 11 dimensions - could it be, for
> example, that there is another dimension in which the entangled particles
> are adjacent to each other?
> Norman
Of course here we are speaking of spooky actions as possible
*physical* effects, involving, or not, superlumi
Norman Samish wrote:
I've been reading about "spooky action at a distance"
at
http://www.ncsu.edu/felder-public/kenny/papers/bell.html
and several other
sites.
"Spooky action-at-a-distance" is a catchy but misleading description of
EPR-Bell type quantum correlations beca
I've been reading about "spooky action at a distance" at
http://www.ncsu.edu/felder-public/kenny/papers/bell.html and several other
sites.
I'm told that non-locality is a phenomenon that is proven. A review of
experiments makes it clear that "spooky action at a distance
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